Uncensored Complaints About Fusion | Forums

[RetiredRonin]

Dev opinions are not a "conflict of interest"
Different people have different point of view and are all free to state them, this includes the dev team.
The only "debate" we have engaged in is about Uplay Recommended, which I gave you all of the facts on.
There are forum rules that are easy to find, they outline what is considered trolling.
The people who determine what is or isn't trolling are the people who are responsible for enforcing the forum rules.
If I say "Ubilynx is full of stupid, lazy and pathetic devs" (which is from a post that was recently removed) then it is obviously a negative and rule breaking post. The negativity would not be from me not having a positive outlook.

PS: I really do cut people a lot of slack as I understand that frustration can make an otherwise awesome community member make some posts that break rules. When people think that rules don't apply to them because I cut them slack, then it's time to make sure everyone knows that the rules apply to them as well. Any post that you ever make needs to follow the rules. Just because I let it slide & think "he's just a bit angry about such & such" doesn't mean that an infraction cannot be given for it if your posting habits continue to decline into the realm of constant trolling or forum toxicity.

@TX - I read your post. I'm not sure why you removed it, as it was a great example of what I hope to see every day. I assume it is because the thread no longer seemed constructive.

[NovaDarkStorm]

@mpc

Yeah I can see the point mate but it sometimes seems like bits and points are taken a bit slightly off term, but we have all our opinions at the end of the day.

As for me, do I enjoy Fusion?

Yes and no, I feel like there are some issues that need to be resolved, I made key points in the game when talking to some of the Ubisoft staff when at the EGX, tire glitches and certain things that make replay value tedious rather than fun. Thing is, that can be chance too and you hope certain things don't go wrong.

The good things that have been added are challenges as well as the squirrels being around on the game and animations are cool, but animations on the driving line for me is a no, I don't entirely enjoy landing on something and snapping, but it looks cool with a theme if it is necessary and adds a bit more depth.

If people are wording their sentences that are against another person, being community or dev's, it's still breaking the rules and like Shifty said just because it happens doesn't mean there can be exceptions.

[empecee]

oh yes i forgot i was also accused of encouraging people . ie the team of five to quit trials . . dev conflict of interest /attack or just a point of view ?

[funktastic-]

Dev opinions are not a "conflict of interest"
Different people have different point of view and are all free to state them, this includes the dev team.
The only "debate" we have engaged in is about Uplay Recommended, which I gave you all of the facts on.
There are forum rules that are easy to find, they outline what is considered trolling.
The people who determine what is or isn't trolling are the people who are responsible for enforcing the forum rules.
If I say "Ubilynx is full of stupid, lazy and pathetic devs" (which is from a post that was recently removed) then it is obviously a negative and rule breaking post. The negativity would not be from me not having a positive outlook.

PS: I really do cut people a lot of slack as I understand that frustration can make an otherwise awesome community member make some posts that break rules. When people think that rules don't apply to them because I cut them slack, then it's time to make sure everyone knows that the rules apply to them as well. Any post that you ever make needs to follow the rules. Just because I let it slide & think "he's just a bit angry about such & such" doesn't mean that an infraction cannot be given for it if your posting habits continue to decline into the realm of constant trolling or forum toxicity.

@TX - I read your post. I'm not sure why you removed it, as it was a great example of what I hope to see every day. I assume it is because the thread no longer seemed constructive.

I did say that i did not actually know in which this was reffereing to , i also did say my angle was coming from a multiple amount of post within the weeks previous that i have read. I agree that people have opinions and thats all they are but from a members point of view when you are barraged with multiple people who work for a company using facts to highligh the point in matter doesnt actually help the situation at hand dose it. After all we are gamers and when it comes down to it there is a wage in this for your selfs and this in no way can not be a conflict of interest.This however doesnt mean that i think thieir opinions are not valid ones , I was just saying try to look at it from a members point of view when disscusions happen.

I was also showing my support for a member because i saw where he was coming from. I totaly agree you have patients and are very understanding this wasnt meant to look like i meant otherwise. The trolling was a refference because we are told alot of time that we are trolling in which can only be an asumption not an actualy fact . Trolling is an calculated asumption and used too freely within a free speech and opinion driven comminuty. Passions are high and this games has caused passion to be high to its should use some compasion and not asume trolling is the case. What you said the post said wasnt right no but that doesnt mean it is trolling. I would think it was more of a very quick response which was a bad judge call and not infact a means to cause hurt to some intentionally. The term trolling is infact a contredictory term to the term freedom to express ones opinion. Where one person might read a post and class it as trolling another may read it and class it as a meaning full post. So the term infact shouldn't be used as a tool within a heated debate. I agree there is trolls in which go around the internet harrassing people intentially , yet within a forum such has this were passion , freedom of speech and effort from all should not always be classed as trolling just because someone steps over the line verbally or is very quick within a post, Its still breaking the rules of course and infractions may acure. If a thread , topic or discussion starts of pejorative thats doesnt mean the discussion will not turn out non - prjorative. One single post in a thread shouldnt be see as trolling but the whole thread , disussion , debate. therefore be givn the chance to express one opinion without being labled a troll. Breaking rules is different yet how can you define trolling when so many members of the community have diffferent meaning to it. Trolling is nothing new it has been around since the caveman , this was a big within the yahoo chatrooms years ago but had no name. The internet was infact aslo aided with bots , this happened frequently within the msn forums and then became a global phenomenom ( spelling lol ) this then with the help of such things like social media , facebook and so forth collected the term trolling. Where it was deemed to go on to peoples pages and insult or have harmful intent. Since then the term trolling is used in everyway possibly by forums to keep the negative parts of thier company a quite part. A negative point in an opinion is somewhat classed as trolling by company such as this to discredit it and keep the structure looking clean.

Negativity for buisnnes plays as much part in a buissnes growing as does positivity. It cannot get better without negativity being aired. I agree though thats this is hard to police within a place like this and it must be and hard job to do

Trolling has occured lots of times within my discussion with you , not your self but others , they simply add silly images to fuel an argument which i think is trolling. There is no point to an image which has nothing to do with the discussion or they get personel and this is happened lots of times yet these indeviduals seem to continue to do this all the time. In the recommended discussions members have continuusly fulled discussion with these images and this has continued. This has angerd me at the time and insulted my discussion and this to me is trolling. to cause harm with actual intent and not actually show any constructiveness to the topic at hand is most deffinetly trolling yet these people get away without any infractions and continue to do so.

the fact the devs cannot share with people opinions whats wrong with the game is evidence that they do have a conflict of interest , nothing wrong with that and no way to solve it either. IF in a debate an opinion arises which is negative against the game you have no choice but to give an opinion which is maybe somewhat false. It cant be true that all developers think that all is fine with the game because thats what they portrya within these walls thats what i was meaning.

like i have said all the devs are cool and we have had some good discussion heated ones and you have been patient , i am sorry if you thought my previous post was saying other

I did actually praise the developers within the post i deleted but it did seem to much in your face and feared it my cause conflict so i thought that i should delete it.

[BigSh0tRob]

I just dont understand why we gotta have all these rules.. We are not in church, this is The Internet.
Surely its a good thing to have a moderator remove spam & very excessive trolling, but why cant we just be brutally honest?
Ubisoft is not some uptight American company, they are french!
I lived in France for a year and from my experience the french swear a lot and they love open & honest debate.
All this censorship really doesn't serve any good purpose in my opinion, lighten up on the rules guys come on now!

[RetiredRonin]

The Ubisoft forums are available to people of all ages, the rules are there for a reason and those rules will be enforced.

[IImayneII]

brutally honest?

And

open & honest debate.

Doesn't mean you have to swear, attack other members, etc.

The rules are there because most people can't be brutally honest in a civil way. Thank them for the rules.

[Retribution]

SwagReflector- Does this really matter? lol Its not like Fusion can be changed, tinkered with. The game is cemented now. Only new tracks/multiplayer tracks will come in. LEARN TO ADAPT LIKE THE BIG BOYS! Btw, when you get home, text me. I wanna show you a sample of uh, an organic product that my friendly neighbor has been harvesting.

[BigSh0tRob]

Guys, what if this entire forum only consists of Oozi's sock puppet accounts
and Shifty is the only other real person trying to moderate Oozi's posts?
Is Retribution really Oozi in disguise?
Am i Oozi??

Oh my gawd i feel like blowing my mind up!

[Retribution]

Guys, what if this entire forum only consists of Oozi's sock puppet accounts
and Shifty is the only other real person trying to moderate Oozi's posts?
Is Retribution really Oozi in disguise?
Am i Oozi??

Oh my gawd i feel like blowing my mind up!

But...but its SwagReflector. Swag that reflects. Swag that reflects our awesomeoness off each and every one of us onto others. #oOziSchwag