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    Uncensored Complaints About Fusion

    You're not alone.

    http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=848234

    Instead of constantly having what you've said spun back around and moderated by forum administrators here, please select the link above and read true "opinions" and "feedback" of what people are saying in regards to RedLynx, UbiSoft, and Trials Fusion. On this forum you're allowed to have an opinion, voice an opinion, and read other users opinions, but to a certain extent. The forum rules here have been written like how a Casino runs their business; at the end of the day, the house always wins.

    You can always try to state how you feel about certain aspects of Trials Fusions on the highly intuitive, user friendly UbiSoft forums, but any negativity will be met by a number of forum administrators and/or developers responding to your comment in a manner of why YOU'RE wrong and THEY'RE right. You can be hit with "statistics" (that are never shown, only talked about), Testimonials, quotes from magazines, or hints of DLC/Patches that are right around the corner which may remedy a change in your negative perspective towards Trials Fusion.

    If all else fails and forum administrators or developers are unable to persuade you from changing your thoughts to their's, well, get ready to be slapped with "trolling", a citation, and a locked thread.

    I've never come across a single negative comment on these forums that wasn't met by a Community Manager(s) or Game Developer who did not become confrontational or argumentative after they've initially read the users negative feedback and replied.

    I wish RedLynx would stop treating the negative feedback on this forum like a pissing competition and actually take the harsher criticism instead of reading our watered down complaints (which for the majority of time are found to be against forum rules), and value critics whom are trying to help as oppose to reading, responding, thread locking, disregarding and deleting their posts (because of "profanity", which is starred out, or because the user was mildly insulting due to their frustration while attempting to voice that to you in the only way he or she can).

    How many people here can truthfully say that RedLynx has listened to them when you've attempted to, or stated something negative about Fusion, whether it was intended to be constructive or you were blowing off steam to show your level of frustration, but in turn you were met with what I have described above?

    Anybody? Anybody at all?

    .. Now I'll wait for the classic RedLynx Community Manager to break down my comment in quotes, piece by piece, for them to share their "opinion" as to why they believe I am wrong for sharing my views on how I see things run on this forum.
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    DJ_2wItchY's Avatar Trials Developer
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    You can do what you want. I won't be responding to any posts any more. I will only be helping the WR thread out and that is it.
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    Originally Posted by DJ_2wItchY Go to original post
    You can do what you want. I won't be responding to any posts any more. I will only be helping the WR thread out and that is it.
    strange immature sounding answer . anyway glad to see the WR thread will get your utmost attention . interesting post op to which you will maybe know i would agree with and post . cant say much more as i got and infraction last time after 4 pages of delayed spotted apparent trolling . disaclamer . this is just an opinion nothing more .no direct malice or disruption intended
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    @SwagReflector - So,from what I understand: you want to be able to state your opinion, while breaking forum rules, and not have a differing opinion stated. Am I reading this wrong? I think I might be, because saying you think people are censoring your opinion while stating that other people (Hi, I'm a person!) shouldn't post their opinion seems a bit hypocritical.

    TL-DR - Follow the forum rules and you'll be fine.

    @empeecee - DJ feels like he has been attacked while trying to be constructive and do something in addition to his job (and from what I've been reading over the last few months, he has). He is under no obligation to post to the forum and I find his decision to take a break a mature reaction to constant aggression shown towards he and other members of the development team. People asked why dev-team members don't post that often. This is a perfect example.

    I understand your frustration, we've all read the feedback. DJ is a level designer for RedLynx, but he was also a member of this community for as long as many of you. He also gets slapped in the face with a ton of negativity pretty much 100% of the time when he posts. Criticizing him for taking a break proves the point.

    Think about it like this;

    You work for the city designing bridges.
    You also help out filling pot-holes in your spare time.
    Every time you pick up your shovel and get close to a pot-hole somebody drives by and calls you a name.
    Every Time.
    Possibly 5 or 6 times per pot-hole.
    I don't think anyone would fault you if you said "You know, I'm not filling in pot-holes anymore."
    They most certainly wouldn't call you immature.

    If you don't like getting infractions, then don't break the rules.
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    I valued djs response and interaction last week within a thread of mine. I also enjoyed the fact he took his own time to show his own passion and values in respect of my own , Infact his insight with experience maybe gave me a different view on things in which was the meaning of the thread. He seems a good lad and to be honest very mature as i pictured an older dude until i see him on the twitch. As much as people moan dj , they then turn off the laptop and pick up the fusion controller and really deep down do appreciate everything that the game offers but unfortunately praise is somewhat a limited respsone in humanity. Keep ya chin up bud , your the one working for a massive company making games in which we would all love to do. so whos winning
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    Originally Posted by ShiftySamurai Go to original post
    @SwagReflector - So,from what I understand: you want to be able to state your opinion, while breaking forum rules, and not have a differing opinion stated. Am I reading this wrong? I think I might be, because saying you think people are censoring your opinion while stating that other people (Hi, I'm a person!) shouldn't post their opinion seems a bit hypocritical.

    TL-DR - Follow the forum rules and you'll be fine.

    @empeecee - DJ feels like he has been attacked while trying to be constructive and do something in addition to his job (and from what I've been reading over the last few months, he has). He is under no obligation to post to the forum and I find his decision to take a break a mature reaction to constant aggression shown towards he and other members of the development team. People asked why dev-team members don't post that often. This is a perfect example.

    I understand your frustration, we've all read the feedback. DJ is a level designer for RedLynx, but he was also a member of this community for as long as many of you. He also gets slapped in the face with a ton of negativity pretty much 100% of the time when he posts. Criticizing him for taking a break proves the point.

    Think about it like this;

    You work for the city designing bridges.
    You also help out filling pot-holes in your spare time.
    Every time you pick up your shovel and get close to a pot-hole somebody drives by and calls you a name.
    Every Time.
    Possibly 5 or 6 times per pot-hole.
    I don't think anyone would fault you if you said "You know, I'm not filling in pot-holes anymore."
    They most certainly wouldn't call you immature.

    If you don't like getting infractions, then don't break the rules.
    whats interesting is ive been attacked being constructive just the same but not stopped posting .aggressive .no so yes i do think "You can do what you want . I won't be responding to any posts any more." is pretty immature.as it basically says if you don't say or like what i say or want . im not posting and as to the infraction comment i was referring to that fact that it took 4 pages of posts to get one based on me supposedly trolling .as u put it .but u didn't spot it sooner . another strange one .
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    I talked to BlueBadger in person and he actually gave responsible feedback to regards why and having certain things done about the game, so I dunno about the certain points that they have done right and wrong but think of it this way, if you were developing a game and you are trying to set a standard who to please then you're always gonna end up with the same responses back and have been repeated from the beginning.

    Like with Multiplayer, yes it should have been released on the set date but you want it working right? Can't people wait? I know 8 months is a long time to wait for MP but if it's not working properly for all consoles then it can cause more and more issues.

    As regards what should and shouldn't of been done is down to them, if they want to try something new, then that's their choice. We can voice our opinion but doing it the right way is how you've got to go about it.

    You can't just go in saying this bull.. this needs blah blah constant swearing and bitjawing all the time cause it gets no where to the point that no one would want to respond in a good manner.
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    Originally Posted by NovaDarkStorm Go to original post
    I talked to BlueBadger in person and he actually gave responsible feedback to regards why and having certain things done about the game, so I dunno about the certain points that they have done right and wrong but think of it this way, if you were developing a game and you are trying to set a standard who to please then you're always gonna end up with the same responses back and have been repeated from the beginning.

    Like with Multiplayer, yes it should have been released on the set date but you want it working right? Can't people wait? I know 8 months is a long time to wait for MP but if it's not working properly for all consoles then it can cause more and more issues.

    As regards what should and shouldn't of been done is down to them, if they want to try something new, then that's their choice. We can voice our opinion but doing it the right way is how you've got to go about it.

    You can't just go in saying this bull.. this needs blah blah constant swearing and bitjawing all the time cause it gets no where to the point that no one would want to respond in a good manner.
    nobody has gone in saying bull m8 .? just voiced opinions and asked questions to stuff i know you would like the answer or why to . the point is in this thread is that you get put down and attempted to be put right when you do by multiple people . so if your happy with the game .sweet .if your not and want to explain why .your wrong . simple as
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    I have a complaint, the dude who is removing coffin runs is doing an embarrassing job. Get someone else before he removes more runs that don't even coffin or use a trick.
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    As i have stated with my epic long post above , overall i do think the devs are cool and i dont pretend to know what this actuall point is about but i do think i understand what mpc is trying to say.


    I have noticed in the past few weeks that mpc has had some opinions that may seem negative towards others and he has posted these within the threads which has in turn been replied by a developer which is nothing out of the ordinary on both parts but this is were i think mpc is frustrated by and it seems to me to be true and in fact i have sampled this my self all the while. The problem is when you post in a thread and get a reply to it from a developer then you reply again and so forth this leads to other devolpers coming along and adding thier own thoughts and opinions. Devs opinions are a conflict of interest so therefore should not contribute to another members /devs discussion because this causes the member to start to feel like he is being bullied because of the 3 or 4 peoples opinions that have high postion within this forum. I have this happen to me all the time , devs to have a bad habit of adding further agression to a heated thread between one dev and a member by just being there. I myself have this happen to me all the while whilst also having 2 or 3 members on the go also. This can seem very intimadating and when pushed in a corner it is only nartural to defend your self in any means. The devs do infact try to speak with facts in a debate yet never actualy yeild any facts , they state that theres are opinions also yet these are conflicted opinions so in no way shape or form hold as much facts as a members opinion because we are the game we are why it runs so our opinions are final at the end of the day. The game "is " because of each and everyone of this fourms members. So telling us in heated discussion that our opinions are a cause of negativity is the same reason why infact the term " trolling " is so controversial and inccorect because how can anyone determine that at the time of someones post they actually intend for it to cause harm or any unrest. Infact the term trolling is so diverse that it can almost be used for actually anything that is posted in a thread if i say that its taken that way then this can be also classed as trolling just because i said i took it that way.

    I think mpc should be given a break and understood that he might be annoyed at a game that he likes to play and in his own way is trying to better the game and better it for everyone. Just because this way might not be the chosen way of certain people or the preffered way of the developers , it is at least far more then most do within the community to try and further the enjoyment of this game. Nothing in any form can be a negative comment by a person posting. The negativity is taken by the person reading it , not the person posting. Maybe people should choose to have a more positive looks towards opinions , posts and thoughts that obviously have passion written all over them.

    one dev should deal with one discussion , that should be obvious this is put across in a constructive manner as to try and gain some understanding towards mpc and the way he is obviously feeling with the game and its paths its taking. so dont think i am being negative ( shouldnt have to add this ) but always feel that this needs to be underlined.

    edited , sorry i deleted my hours of work lol from above as looking at it , it seemed alittle to much and in your face , it bascily said i think the devs are cool and very good the majority of the time. Also said no point in taking thing elsewhere because nobody to conclude an outcome. also said i am a little tea pot short and stout heres my handle and heres my snout
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