@ teri
regarding my posts ,i understand you mean no harm and understand they may not be direct for a point of debating or opinions like the recomended but let me ask you one question ?
If you think that my posts are in a wrong way and not understandable within a forum where we have no idea of who people are , then how do you think i am a decent guy ? Does it actually truely matter that the content of a post is correclty understood , do you really come in here to read correct sentences and the correct amount of paragraphs or just your own interaction of your interest, unless the post is for information purposes ?. Does it matter that the person who post the post is belived to be sincere , decent or actualy even real ? if yes then your statement about me being a decent guy will show that you understand my post alot more than you think. To make a judgement on a person is to understand his charactor then by this my posts are 100% correctly spoken in the correct manner and understood more than many realiseIf you read a book or watch a film do you actually always understand everything that happens within it i bet not and i also bet this does not stop you from actually understanding the meaning or moral of the story so to speak.
The hardest part of a forum is not posting a post which is correct in grammer anybody can do this with the multiple aids. The hardest part of a forum or online is posting a post and being believed as a decent guy/girl. Why ? because will you remember someones post that you read last week or last month ? not very likely , will you remember a decent guy , most deffinetly. Like you said my post are not very good and you dont understand alot yet you are clear on the fact i am a decent dude. In my book thats what i call job done![]()
Sorry didnt realise it was so late will reply to more in the morning and others that have responded
Post are just posts , random texts within a forum that they call interaction. Having people know your charactor is much more worth while so in the end people understand me perfectly clear , they just dont realise it.![]()
I would rather you know that i am a decent guy then actually understand anything i write. who wouldnt afterall we are strangers yet you know my charactor. much much more satisfying then a random post in a radom forum in which the internet has thousands
I forgot to add that i too think you are a good person , the understadig you seem to have within most of your post and passion is one i admire within a place like this.![]()
Yes but thats my point it should matter , these who build 100 tracks are the ones that keep tc a working comodity and a successfull buisness finds ways of showing its apreciation to these in whatever form. Even if it would only be information within tc to help peolple realise that there is so much to this game. They have banners for the featured and other things what would hurt having a note in them too also about the live editor or maybe someone who has greatly added to tc that week or month. A few words or text could help dramaticly.They pick tracks on a 1 per 1 basis of quality/fun/whatever opinion, if someone builds very often but their tracks are remaining at a not so great level, it will not matter if he made 1 or 100 mediocre tracks
In the end it's RL's choice to decide what tracks get chosen, but there's always a suggestion thread right on those forum to put some extra attention to tracks, they cannot check/find 100.000+ tracks constantly. And that's not even speaking of technical limitations, as 360 has less complexity. (Yet it still amazes me what people build on that platform!)
In all my posts there is one thing i havent thought of and thats about the complexity factor , this is something that have not thought about or taken into acount but i do now, so i guess this also adds to my points of these debates. Also you say thay dont have the ability or man power so to speak to do this , but that is were i dissagree , if they stoped repeatingly awarding quality people for the same thing over and over to provide riders with quality tracks constently in which the featured does but already does in the recomended and the tool already provided in favs or search or view creators other tracks. then they would have the time and man power to put into give back to the one who keep tc a comidity
i think we got missunderstood here as i agree and was saying the same thing , the ninja tracks were used as an example and refference only , i agree they are a different factor with tc.People who build quality already get rewarded via symbolic recognition : Uplay picks/Featured builder. And physically : Contests with actual prizes like the current PC one, and track Jam 1/2 in the past as well as the smaller homework/1 checkpoint challenges.
Ninja tracks are a different story, I have read they got plans for them, so looking forward for that, but the goal of Uplay tracks being pretty much maximum of Extreme, is because more people will be able to enjoy/finish the tracks, not because ninjas are bad, they are just a whole different mode of Trials game in a game imo.
[QUOTESounds like you don't get enough satisfaction from building, then just stop doing so.
Even without RedLynx Picks (Evo Gold), Uplay Recommended or Featured feeds I would still be building][/QUOTE]
I really dont mean to sound off but this annoys me when people continue to say this. Is it that simply black and white and true that you think i dont get enough satisfaction building ?. Try and think of it in a different way , its not got nothing to do with what i personely get from building. Anybody who make something be it a track or a pot for your mams birthday wants recongnition. If you took this pot to your mam and she said , thats rubbish , would you still be satisfied about your pot.. Now come on everyone wants to claim that satisfaction is in the eye of the beholder it is to a certain point but it is with the feeback from what you have created in which makes you understand its quality. Satisfaction is something thats is not questioned and is an obvious factor with playing a game of this caliber , . Satisfaction and measurement are 2 completly different things you could be totaly satisfied with your build yet if there is no form of measurement in which can only come from someone else in whatever from then you could be continually making rubbish. This is way so many people go on the x factor and think they can sing lol or on the talent shows and actual think pickin thier nose or something is an actual talent because they are satisfied that it is. Satisfaction is a silent point that every person has got to have , for people to point this out all the while is acutally an insight to that they are not fully satisfied with what they are achieveing not that i mean that bad by the way. Things so obvious dont need to be pointed out , you can not measure your own skill in no way shape or form without it either being biast ( spelt worng ) , incorrect or atually being an asumption. You may asume you are getting better , but how do you know if your asumptions is correct ? by measurement of others. Where creativness plays a big part on this , skill also play apart within the drive line and skill within building this needs to be measured on its own merit otherwise you could be making nothing and getting nowwhere in your ability. We learn from doing wrong but only by being told that we are doing wrong and that comes in forms of measure. Believe me i know this hence how far i have come within a short period , because i did not go on my own thoughts , i have gone on the measure from other skilled people and reactions. But i have had to search for this measurment its not at hand.
Why should one not strive to be higher within a skilled based medium , this for me is a sign that you want to only get so far. Thats fine but i want to be better at building then the next person and want to be better than anyone at building , is that not a goal for you if not i am curious as to why. thats called competition ambision and it give me progression with whatever i want to do. Is this wrong , if you say you dont want to be placed higher then anyone else then why do you think that others who build and contribute to this game also should be given a place lower and stay awlays in the foggy waters of tc ? or not be seen at all. If we are going on skill then again it goes back to , your dam right i want to be a better builder then who is the best now. How do people achieve goals otherwise without having the drive.I never want to place myself higher then others over a Featured or Uplay pick. Again, build for enjoyment most of all.
On the subject of a "new/upcoming builder" Feed:
This is not realistic, every builder had a start point somewhere, my first tracks weren't amazing and unknown, but I still built and built, eventually other people will recognize quality linked to a builder's name. There's a big difference between a new builder and someone who just spams TC with floating ramps in the sky on the same location in the map (I have seen this happen from multiple builders on TC). I have made mistakes on tracks as well, everyone does at some point. Learn from it.
As for it not being realistic about someone starting somewhere and having to progress slowly , i dont agree , i think that people who can move up quickly have the ability to progress within this enviorment more rapidly should also have the opertunity to do so. Just because it may take someone a certain amount of time doesnt mean that its wrong to give an incentive or help to people who can get the double or tripple the time. They do this in schools , they give children who are in high levels at school extra lessons in them subjects becuase they have the ability to know more so they push them hence the results being better than they would have been if just left and same with this game , if they give or push people who can be quicker why not , this will only reflect in better quality tracks which mean more riders which means a fatter wallet for the maker of the game.
Oh yeah i about the floating shelfs , and infact alot what you say is infact alot what i think maybe slightly different but again that could be preffernces or my grammer not being correctly put. When i speak of thing being done for creators within tc i am only reffering to ones where the tracks are very playable ok not recomended quality , i do mean real trial tracks with effort gone into them that can be seen that theyare serious builders , im not meaning stupid psam tracks or things like that but what i do think is anything like that will give inspiration to the ones that spam tracks or make tracks with floatinging shelves because it will be seen as though they are giving to a class where they can ahcieve within a short time and this game is based on short playing times as we have heard and seen. Where there is a circle within the top quality bulders and a theme , there is also the same amongst the tc rubbish , give to these people like ones who make half decent tracks and this could possibly intice or give reson for the one to make better tracks. They see nothing so why should they build decor to thier tracks no need. I have played som trck with awsome drive line but the track is horrible to ride because there is no decor whatsoever , why should they spend time , some dont want to because they see no point. I place where ther name would be would giv them a reason to add decor to gain better skill.
Anyway i have spoke to much again but did try to use the multi quote button and not sure if it worked. I understand if you dont read it thats cool bud or even just pick the odd paragraph which is cool too.
cheers for the responses and i have enjoyed speaking with like minded people who have a pasion fo this game and want to best from all sides..
now to go pull my tooth out dam tooch ache![]()
@ Vimes sorry bud i did reply with some quotes of yours too but they got lost soewhere hahaa...
I did actually mention having the featured for 2 weeks instead of a month somewhere in a post lol , i also see that we agree on alot maybe in diferent ways but the same goals... thanks again for the responses to this thread same as i have said its been good having a good debate with likeminded people about things that could better all our experiences within the games.. also again sorry if my posts are not clear enough i do try emensley to get the as good as i can and as clear as possible.
cheers dude![]()
I deleted original post.
Self Improvement: Of course I want to push my tracks to the limit and improve over time.
Not putting myself higher then other builders: I just am not a person to go say "I am better then builder X , builder X builds crap" I downvote bad tracks but I don't put myself vocally over other builders, even if I have been picked for uplay/featured I am just 1 person that likes to build, and play the game and make videos about it.
New Builder Feed: I mean the Feed itself is unrealistic to implement, what would it look like? People's first or few track(s) ever published?
That's why I suggested a Builder Listing/Feed instead on the TC improvement thread, which I think has the same purpose but better.
New Builder Track's Improvement: Of course most builders improve over time, and I also agree some people probably never know about those forums or streams to ask questions on, so a notification could help somewhere to help those new ppl start up.
If you ask for money for something then something in return should be given , self satisfaction of building i dont think is enough to keep building when the person who makes the games wallet is getting fatter lol.Saying to stop building was a wrong thing to do, so I'm sorry for that but I really got confused on the bolded part there.Is it that simply black and white and true that you think i dont get enough satisfaction building ?
I'm done, just wanted to clear up some parts of my old post.
ok bud no worries , each have different views and if we didnt the world would be boring , as for the highlighted part i think thats proberly a problem down to a sentence out of a paragraph being used by its self maybe it looked that way but did infact was part of a whole meaning. Possibly also enforces your idea that my text should be more clear and to the point which i agree.
The end of the day if people want to take it as though i am saying i am better than them then thats up to them because i know im not , i see it that there isnt really a better builder but more of different types of builders who have different or better skills then each other. I am howevr saying that it does not matter how good i get or what type of builder i become i wont class myself or think that i deserve more than anyone else within tc like alot of others do who build. Just because a skill is better than anothers does not mean that you should gain a better quality of gaming experienc within this game , but thats the way the game works and yes i dont like that fact so i speak my mind.
everyone paid exactly the same amout of money for this game so everyone should get exactly the same amount of gaming quality , this isnt really an opinion but a fact. The editor is a tool anyone can use and do , should this matter that someone might be better educated to use the tools ? or better at placing an object ? nope it shouldnt when each game cost the same for each person.
sorry just wanted to explain what i mean in the way of satifaction..
will leave it there on my part so dont thik i am being rude if i dont post a reply to any response or we could be here all day lol , con grats on the picture comps. cool pic![]()