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    Originally Posted by kidmpc Go to original post
    the bit im not allowed to dislike is the free cam. which does nothing for making montages and screenshots whatsoever.
    As somebody who has actually used this new feature to make a montage, the free camera was much more useful than the follow camera.

    Edit: I was curious so I checked my video to see the difference. I was just counting the shots from YouTube, not my project file so this might not be exact. There are 51 shots in the video. 30 of them use the free camera, 21 use follow. Of the 30 free cam shots almost half, 12 shots, would have been impossible if the builder used this workaround.

    If you want to limit player's ability to enjoy your tracks that's your choice. But please don't pretend like the feature is useless when it is in fact very useful for the people who will want to use it most.
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    Originally Posted by kidmpc Go to original post
    the bit im not allowed to dislike is the free cam. which does nothing for making montages and screenshots whatsoever.
    As somebody who has actually used this new feature to make a montage, the free camera was much more useful than the follow camera.

    Edit: I was curious so I checked my video to see the difference. I was just counting the shots from YouTube, not my project file so this might not be exact. There are 51 shots in the video. 30 of them use the free camera, 21 use follow. Of the 30 free cam shots almost half, 12 shots, would have been impossible if the builder used this workaround.

    If you want to limit player's ability to enjoy your tracks that's your choice. But please don't pretend like the feature is useless when it is in fact very useful for the people who will want to use it most.
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    Originally Posted by cannibalshogun Go to original post
    As somebody who has actually used this new feature to make a montage, the free camera was much more useful than the follow camera.

    Edit: I was curious so I checked my video to see the difference. I was just counting the shots from YouTube, not my project file so this might not be exact. There are 51 shots in the video. 30 of them use the free camera, 21 use follow. Of the 30 free cam shots almost half, 12 shots, would have been impossible if the builder used this workaround.

    If you want to limit player's ability to enjoy your tracks that's your choice. But please don't pretend like the feature is useless when it is in fact very useful for the people who will want to use it most.
    never once pretended it was usless . it is useless . im getting pretty bored of being told it isnt . im happy you used it in you videos . good for you . i still dont like it . my decision. why do u even care about my thoughts on it . i dont get it ,im not suddenly going to change my mind because u made a montage . i mean some cash might do it
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    Originally Posted by kidmpc Go to original post
    never once pretended it was usless . it is useless . im getting pretty bored of being told it isnt . im happy you used it in you videos . good for you . i still dont like it . my decision. why do u even care about my thoughts on it . i dont get it ,im not suddenly going to change my mind because u made a montage . i mean some cash might do it
    because you effin post them onto a Forum?! MAybe?
    thats the whole Point of posting, that others read it and think and care about it.

    And, hell no, the Feature is far away of beeing useless.


    take a look arround, look at what other games are doing. replay and camera modes get patched into games left and right, People want this stuff.
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    Originally Posted by kidmpc Go to original post
    never once pretended it was usless . it is useless . im getting pretty bored of being told it isnt . im happy you used it in you videos . good for you . i still dont like it . my decision. why do u even care about my thoughts on it . i dont get it ,im not suddenly going to change my mind because u made a montage . i mean some cash might do it
    You don't seem to understand the concept of an opinion. Saying you don't like it is an opinion. Saying it is useless when I've clearly demonstrated a use for it is not an opinion. It's a false statement. You are welcome to your opinion. You don't like it, fair enough. Many people do like it so it is far from useless.

    If you don't want people to respond to your thoughts why do you post them here?
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    Originally Posted by kidmpc Go to original post
    never once pretended it was usless . it is useless . im getting pretty bored of being told it isnt . im happy you used it in you videos . good for you . i still dont like it . my decision. why do u even care about my thoughts on it . i dont get it ,im not suddenly going to change my mind because u made a montage . i mean some cash might do it
    You don't seem to understand the concept of an opinion. Saying you don't like it is an opinion. Saying it is useless when I've clearly demonstrated a use for it is not an opinion. It's a false statement. You are welcome to your opinion. You don't like it, fair enough. Many people do like it so it is far from useless.

    If you don't want people to respond to your thoughts why do you post them here?
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    if we make a TRAILER, "is before transmitting our cannibal tracks"

    your video is very good ....

    * unfortunately, we have to disseminate the track on the central tracks to perform a replay ... so .... too late to realize our trailer "that makes you want to play"
    therefore no interest .... no urgency with this camera
    good reception
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    Originally Posted by cannibalshogun Go to original post
    You don't seem to understand the concept of an opinion. Saying you don't like it is an opinion. Saying it is useless when I've clearly demonstrated a use for it is not an opinion. It's a false statement. You are welcome to your opinion. You don't like it, fair enough. Many people do like it so it is far from useless.

    If you don't want people to respond to your thoughts why do you post them here?
    i post my thoughts because it a forum . just my opinion . my opinion on your additions to a game i play .nothing more . but for some reason im getting replys of pretty much all of you . just eno to go . telling me im wrong . and giving me useless explanations . i know what i like and dislike . im stating i dislike it . ie my opinion and you and others keep replying telling me am wrong . giving your opinions . so why go round in circles . dont get it ..u made the game . i play it .u put a camera in the game i dont like it . i post . thats it . nothing false about your customers opinion . or im i not permitted to post my dislikes . well u have proved that point . tbh
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    also your opinion is highly biased . dont you think .
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    I didn't say that your opinion was wrong. It's your opinion, your thoughts, that's nothing that can be wrong. Other people are also able to have their opinions, even if they are different. My post was about why I think that the replay camera is a tool, like any other tool in the game, and that blocking it's use is blocking creativity of some players. Nothing more.

    Forums are a place for discussion, a place where contrary opinions can be discussed and talked about. I'm not trying to change your mind, I'm just explaining why my opinion and yours are not the same. Shogun and I have opinions, just like anyone else, and I think we should also be free to state them on the forums like anyone else. Our opinions don't need to be the same as yours, or even the same as each other's opinion. The thing to remember is that this is a forum and people can and will reply to your posts. That's the way it works.

    The only thing someone said you were wrong about was saying the replay camera changes are useless. You may not like the changes, you may not use them, but others can and do, so they have a use. That isn't saying your opinion isn't valid, just that there is a use in the tool.

    @attilla - I once again have no idea what you are talking about, sir.
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    - The tool camera is there to make trailers ...
    - But to access the replay (and be able to record video), you must disseminate the track

    it's like the next episode of Star Wars 7 was circulated before the trailer !!!

    useless!
    I thought great, but no ...
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    There is no way to preorder UGC tracks in Trials, so I don't understand the point of NEEDING a track trailer to be released before the tracks are out... The example is not really a good correlation, as you don't need to drum up hype for a UGC track to ensure that you make a monetary return on a limited engagement/limited time theater run. I would rather see "Available Now" on trailers for anything that I find interesting, and I'm sure most people would agree with me... This includes the new Star Wars movies.

    But hey, maybe that's just me.
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