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    Petition for some kind of compensation

    I think since many of us paid good money for Farcry 4 and its yet to work for many MANY people 3 days in from the launch we should get some kind of compensation. either a free game or credit towards one , or something!!!!!
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    I agree.

    Especially since they lowered the price of the Gold Edition Pre-Order from £64.99 to £54.99 (+free copy of FC2).

    I still can't play it here in the UK. The game is stuck on V 1.0.1. and returns an error on launch, so is unplayable
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    {Here, let me edit your petition for you to reflect reality as opposed to hyperbole:

    I understand the game is working fine for millions of people, and I understand UbiSoft was quick to respond with a patch for the mouse issue some were having, and I appreciate that.

    However, I'm in a comparatively small group of people having issues I don't care to describe here because I'm not looking for help, I just feel like wining at the top of my lungs.

    I understand there are psychic people in the world, or at least those are purport themselves to be, so, if you fit that description, could you take a moment and try and get my game working for me?

    Thank you.}

    Now the reality is, this comes up at every release. People were having problems with FC1, FC2, FC3, and of course now, FC4.

    Allow me to share my experience:

    FC1: Install, play, replay several times.
    FC2: Install, play, fix a very imtermittant problem relating to a bad sound card driver, replay 40+ times.
    FC3: Install, play, replay over 20 times.
    FC4: Install, play, and being my 8th hour in game, wonder why some people are complaining. It is fluid on my GTX 580, the mouse control is perfect, the only thing I can call less than perfect is the game still has all that kiddie console port junk in it, and I grow weary of all the ways today's developers hamstring PC games in seeming favor of the kiddie consoles.

    So, look for issues similar to yours, see if any solutions offered work for you. Get on the phone or ubi help to see if you can get things working that way.
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    Originally Posted by Far_Cry2_Fan Go to original post
    {Here, let me edit your petition for you to reflect reality as opposed to hyperbole:

    I understand the game is working fine for millions of people, and I understand UbiSoft was quick to respond with a patch for the mouse issue some were having, and I appreciate that.

    However, I'm in a comparatively small group of people having issues I don't care to describe here because I'm not looking for help, I just feel like wining at the top of my lungs.

    I understand there are psychic people in the world, or at least those are purport themselves to be, so, if you fit that description, could you take a moment and try and get my game working for me?

    Thank you.}

    Now the reality is, this comes up at every release. People were having problems with FC1, FC2, FC3, and of course now, FC4.

    Allow me to share my experience:

    FC1: Install, play, replay several times.
    FC2: Install, play, fix a very imtermittant problem relating to a bad sound card driver, replay 40+ times.
    FC3: Install, play, replay over 20 times.
    FC4: Install, play, and being my 8th hour in game, wonder why some people are complaining. It is fluid on my GTX 580, the mouse control is perfect, the only thing I can call less than perfect is the game still has all that kiddie console port junk in it, and I grow weary of all the ways today's developers hamstring PC games in seeming favor of the kiddie consoles.

    So, look for issues similar to yours, see if any solutions offered work for you. Get on the phone or ubi help to see if you can get things working that way.

    I was agreeing with your reply up until you started on the Kiddie console crap... its PC elitists like you that give the gaming industry as a whole a bad rep! I used to be like you once, its the Console industry that is to blame for EVERYTHING bad in the world or what developers decide to do when they create their games, consoles created the Ebola virus, Consoles are controlling Nth Korea and are the reason that Putin invaded the Ukraine... then I got a brain and grew up. Unlike most PC elitists I not only owned a Gaming PC growing up starting with a (Intel 386 40 mhz with NO soundcard) and upgraded it regularily to meet the most demanding of games, but I also always had a console in the house going back to a time when most of you PC elitists were not even a twinkle in your Mumma's eye, (the first time I gamed was with IBM 8088's with CGA graphics (4 colors) ) and an Atari 2600 system was considered modern console gaming. Anyone remember Apple 11 e's? I played my first RPG on those, Ultima, or Commodore 64's classics like Conan the Barbarian with Tape backup that loaded so slowly you could go and have a cut lunch and a coffee and it would still be loading when you returned?

    No I think the problem with some gamers these days are they are spoilt, spoilt beyond belief. Spoilt by their Multi-cored 4 Gighz machines with SLI-D Graphics cards with Gigabytes of Dedicated VRam capable of pushing out figures that a Cray supercomputer in the 80s and 90s would only dream about. You forget the times when you had to use a boot disk just to get enough free RAM to load up a game, a time when 3d cards were unheard of, and Sound in the form of Soundcards were a luxury item not a necessity.A time when all the games looked like Minecraft or worse, anyone remember TES 1 Arena?

    No you guys need to get over yourselves, get with reality and realise that we are all GAMERS no matter WHAT we are gaming on, I don't care if it is on a damn Android Phone ffs we all share the love of gaming and the joy it brings to us. Consoles are not the enemy, people like you are with your single minded hatred of anything Console and thinking they are to blame for everything. While I type on my Gaming Laptop I am loading Dragon Age Inquisition on my PS4, and I can tell you which it will run smoother on, with less crashes, bugs and configuring, and it isn't my Laptop.

    Btw according to figures the average gaming age is 32 and over half of them have a console so its time you learn't that consoles are not majorly used by kids overall. I know of at least 10 Mates who game, and all of them have a console and we are all over the age of 30.

    http://www.bigfishgames.com/blog/201...-what-and-why/

    Get with the times and move on.
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    I stand by my kiddie console statements. Wall hacks, enemy radars so the kiddies can avoid the bad guys, onscreen prompts for each and every little action, these are all things that come from the consoles.

    Look, I understand that a company puts a lot into making games, and should be able to market to whomever they want in order to maximize profit. But even if I were on a console, I still wouldn't want all that garbage in my way, it should be an option, not a default. And so far as PC goes, if it's going to be there at all, it should be a skill level option, or limited to the training element as it was in Far Cry 2.

    The fact that you had to use ridiculous examples (Putin, North Korea) is prima facia evidence that you absolutely know I'm right, but you just want to squawk like a little bird. Funny you fell for the gaming laptop BS, no wonder you are p i s s e d off! And the reason your console runs better than the "gaming laptop" you were duped into buying is the much lower resolution on the console, that too, you know for certain. The new generation of consoles have made large improvements of course (thay had to, or become irrelevant) but they still pale in comparison to even a mid-stream PC.

    Don't be jealous just because you wasted your money on a "gaming laptop", that's on you, nobody else!

    And for what it's worth, I had considered a new genertion console for a bit (nice to have an entire system cost less than a video card for sure), until I realized that I would purposefully be supporting the industry that is actively negatively impacting PC gaming.

    Now here's the deal: Ubi claims to develop on the PC, then spin off the console c r a p. What's not being said is they are developing on the PC because it is a platform that lends itself to development no matter the target, but they are developing WITH CONSOLES IN MIND, right out of the gate. A better approach would be to develp on the PC for the PC, then, and only then, dumb it down for the consoles. Instead, they admit they tone down the PC for a more "familiar experience across all platforms". Well duh, I've got console inspired C r a p in my face that makes it a bit TOO familiar.

    Your hyper defensive response is a classic, all of the straw man examples are in place, all of the half-truth evident, but you make a poor assumptio, that I'm some sort of spoiled little kid gaming on my daddy's dime. Truth is, I'm 56 years old, and the last game I bought before FC4 was FC3. Before that, it was FC2, Before that, it was F.E.A.R (sucked) and before that, Return to Castle Wolfenstein. So you see, I don't game all that much, but when I do, I want the full experience, not to be bombarded with kiddie c r a p.

    I'm sorry you fell for the "gaming laptop" BS, but don't blame me.

    One last statement regarding maps and on screen help: Far Cry 2 was perfect. The training element at the beginning was a handy introduction, without having to consult the manual. It was long enough to give you the required experience to play the rest of the game without help. The "GPS' handheld map was genious, no better way of doing it has ever been invented, the absolute pinnacle. Now for wall hacks and tagging? What kind of gamer would EVER want to know exactly where enemies and dangerous animals are in real time? I can't imagine this is of value to anyone beyond age 5, so what the H is is doing in a game which is rated for 16+ years old or whatever age it specifies?

    I am an elitest because I choose the quality experience, you can't have a quality experience if the game is dumbed down to the point where it looks just like a console. Sorry you didn't save your money for a real machine, I bet that laptop beat the c r a p out of your wallet.

    Added:
    I am not your "brother in gaming", I share little if anything in common with you, gaming does not create a bond, or create a "band of brothers" amongst gamers. You want us all to "just get along" ( a liberal mantra) when you know for a fact that the platform you had to settle for is in fact negatively impacting my platform, you want me to "deal with it" because we are "kindered spirits"? LOL, never once did I imply games should not be made for your platform or tailored to the largest audience your platform caters to, but you sure want me to accept the dumbing down out of "fairness" I suppose? If that's the case, that's just another liberal mantra, fairness is always sought after by those who have no plans on improving.
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    Thought I'd add another genuine example of where the console influence is hurting PC gaming:

    Saving. In most earlier games (any of them really, but I'll specifically reference FC2), you could save where you want, when you want. Time to make dinner, and know you have something else to do after dinner, save, close. Next time you run it, you are on the exact footstep.
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    well said sir. wish i could shake your hand. On a side note you can tell this is a console port by looking in the distance every thing is blurry because console cant render objects far away because of mediocre hardware.
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    Originally Posted by Far_Cry2_Fan Go to original post
    Thought I'd add another genuine example of where the console influence is hurting PC gaming:

    Saving. In most earlier games (any of them really, but I'll specifically reference FC2), you could save where you want, when you want. Time to make dinner, and know you have something else to do after dinner, save, close. Next time you run it, you are on the exact footstep.
    FYI you can save in Farcry 4 wherever you want, on the PS4 it is in the options menu, it says 'save' or 'save and quit'.

    Also somewhere in that mess off text I noticed something about my Gaming Laptop, for starters, you musn't keep up with PC hardware and are stuck sometime back in the 90's because the new 'Gaming Laptop's' are considered to be Desktop replacements because not only are they getting much faster, but components are getting smaller and cooler. Just because you like being chained to your PC desk I like to be able to move around when I game so I gave up on my Desktop that needed upgrading AGAIN and moved on to a Laptop. Farcry games are notoriously power hungry especially Farcry 3 so even powerful desktops struggled with it, there were hundreds of posts about this after release.

    Also you should know better if you have been playing a game going back, obviously you wern't into gaming when I was in the 80's so you can't comment on what it was like to try to game without 3d cards or even sound, but still you are spoilt no matter what age you claim to be for the fact you want every game to be to your exact liking. Not everyone can afford to upgrade their PC every couple of years, I would hate to count how much money I spent on upgrading over the years it would have to be upwards of 30-40k money that could have been spent on better things like a mortgage! It got to a stage where I decided to buy gaming laptops instead and just buy a new one every 5-6 years and use my PS4 for gaming, what I spent on my PS4 wouldn't even buy a decent modern Video Card for a gaming desktop and I still get to game in 1080p at 30-60 fps which now my laptop would struggle to achieve, infact it can't. You forget that every 4-5 years your PC is completely outdated and you have to start lowering resolution and graphics options to get a decent framerate, instead of this I just get a new laptop and continue to game on my PS4. Don't even get me started on incompatibilities, updating drivers, hardware issues, Windows re-installs and crashes on the PC, I turn on my PS4 and it works, I can game for however long I want without worrying about crashing, temps getting too high or Windows issues.

    You see Consoles are much easier to program for than PC's, there is only one configuration so the devs are able to push every single cycle out of their Hardware, Windows and other Microsoft shortcomings do-not allow this along with the multitude of different hardware configurations. As for sticking up for Gamers its Elitists like you that are trolling the internet with your $ PC's claiming to be the master race when all you guys need to do is get out of your Mothers Basement and get back to reality. I stand by my statement that we are all Gamers at heart and crying over Console VS PC wars is not only ridiculous but rather demeaning, pointless and immature.
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    Locket, your assumptions are again getting the better of you. You assume my short list of games is my entire history, frankly I didn't think you deserved as much information as I provided, but for old times sake, my first real console was a Colecovision circa 1980, and before that of course Pong. In any event, its a hoot to watch you try and minimize PCs, while arguing that we shouldn't be engaged in platform wars. Needless to say, you lose again.

    I notice you've got absolutely no comments about how your platform's influence has ruined mine, and you even got the part about saving wrong. I should be able to save in the middle of a field with one foot on a rock, and return to that position. That kind of save granularity disappeared after FC2.

    I see you complaining loudly about having poor success configuring PCs, I understand, I do, it takes a bit more skill and capacity to learn than simply inserting a disc and using aim assist.

    Anyway, you do have one thing right, the platform wars are useless. Everyone knows a 11 year old can build a PC that can outperform any console and seeing that PC's game screen cluttered with kiddie console crap is all that is needed to make my case without another word.

    Have a nice day.
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    You know you have the right to a full refund? I got one.

    http://imgur.com/cnW745Q
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