First, I know multiplayer has a huge following, and I'm not here to argue you shouldn't be able to have your sole human interaction done via a computer game whilst sitting in mum's basement. I understand the clans, it can be a lot of fun using every waking moment (when the rest of us are out working) to practice so your clan can smash others to bits, something you'd never be able to do in real life. I get it.
But multiplayer has screwed up gaming forever. Now devs have to concentrate on providing a social outlet for misfits, instead of making single player gaming as interesting and immersive as they possibly can.
But the largest market is what drives game design, and the hurricane force whining from those not getting enough social attention leads the developers to believe the multiplayer market is bigger than it really is.
Couple that with the ever increasing need to upgrade PCs (especially video cards of course), and you end up poisoning the PC segment to the point where it makes little sense trying to keep up.
I'm supposed to spend $500 or more for a video card for adequate performance, only to play a game that is a straight port from kiddie consoles, and gameplay restricted for single users because the devs feel the whining multiplayers represent the real market share?
Far Cry was an exceptional game for its time. Far Cry 2 was phenomenal, the best yet. Far Cry 3 was quite good considering all of the console port junk allowed to ruin as much immersion as possible, but at least it turned off the multiplayer crowd, leaving me to hope more time will be spent on a fully immersive Far Cry 4.
My litmus test for Far Cry 4 is simple. If the game includes the wall hacks "tagging" that the kiddie console crowd loved, I'll take that as Ubi's admission that PC gaming is a simple by product, and no, I won't be falling for "PC only graphics enhancements" if its still nothing more than a kiddie console port.
Flame suit on, but the flamers ought to know, I understand you multiplayer types very, very well.
HAHAHA! your take on it is amusing. let's get a few things straight.
- I do not depend on multiplayer as my sole human interaction, this would be catastrophically pathetic. This is something I do after all my real life daily tasks (work, chores, errands, responsibilities towards children and spouse, etc...) are taken care of for the day.
- I do not use every waking moment to play games, I am out of the house for work at 4:30AM and don't return until around 6:00PM Monday to Saturday. Gaming is last on my list of priorities. However, after a hard day, and everything is taken care of, I dont mind to have a game to relax. The fact that I can chat and joke with other players is more interesting to me than just listening to programmed dialogue.
- My clan doesn't practice rigorously so we can smash other clans. If you look at the footage from our previous clan wars, we got somewhat served, on maps we created. For us it is ALL ABOUT HAVING FUN.
- I dont know why you are complaining about social outlets. Facebook on peoples phones has seemed to cause a much more ubiquitous problem regarding face to face interaction. how often do you see peoples faces buried in their phones while being surrounded by other people?
- As for spending $500 on an adequate GPU, It all depends on what you want. If it is just for gaming, then something in the $300 range should do just fine. If you want maximum performance, then you can go as high as $1600 and more for a single GPU. This would be for multiple monitors, or high graphics taxing programs such as 3D modelling, video editing, etc... Just buy what you are happy with. Dont hate someone else for having a more superior component. If you are complaining about constantly upgrading, this is because you probably purchase the components that are at the lower end of the performance spectrum. Usually anything on clearance is at the end of its performance potential. The best bet is to plan ahead of what you might need. Sure today certain software only needs so much to run, but in 5 years what is new today will be obsolete then.
- you think you know me based on your prejudice view of online gamers? You know nothing!
This is a great response, I very much agree with all of it..Originally Posted by Ghost_Fart Go to original post
I am also a huge fan of Multiplayer gaming, it is even better when you chat to others when doing it. It reminds me of back when I was young and Split Screen was the best multiplayer experience, and when you grow up, you lose that sense of fun in a way, playing competitive MP while talking to others in a chat takes me back to my childhood if that makes much sense.
I am also a casual gamer now, playing at most 10 hours a week at the moment. Granted I play a lot more when my workplace goes out of season and into quieter times, but I do still work. So using the stereotype of "All Hardcore Gamers are Jobless" DOES NOT work
Even when I play online nowadays, I tend to spend more time chatting to others while I am making a map as they can help with inspiration on maps. But that draws away from what is being discussed.
Also saying a gaming Console is for "Kids" is completely wrong, actually from what I'm aware, the PS3's largest age range is from 18yrs old to 24yrs old. And just for the record, Multiplayer is the largest opportunity for gaming companies to make money, look at the best selling games... GTA5 - Most people buy for multiplayer (but also has a fun singleplayer), Call of Duty - Most people buy for Multiplayer, Battlefield, etc..
So just for the record, Multiplayer is DEFINITELY the most important section of a game, there's only so much a Singleplayer experience can offer, and Multiplayer adds hours of endless fun (if done right) and increases the Longevity of the game.
I find it amusing how you play the PC master race card, and yet complain about $500 upgrades... to play a console game. There was a point when PC gaming was better, but that ended a long time ago... Especially for single player focused games.
You seem like the type who loves getting immersed in a games atmosphere, which is cool, only you probably can only strafe WASD and move like a robot. Multiplayer is not your enemy. Neither are consoles. Sell your PC, grab a console, and you wont need to plop another grand on upgrades, the developers will do that for you. On the xbox360 we went from Perfect Dark Zero graphics to **** Crysis 2, and 3. Id like to see a PC made in 2006 that cost <400$ that could run Crysis 3 at 360 settings.
Look at it like this, i spent £38 on battlefield 4. the campaign is about 6 - 8 hrs at most. but ive spent over 260 hours in multiplayer. which mode gave me the most entertainment for my money ? why play against boring predictable AI when i can play against real people in multiplayermultiplayer in games is just another form of entertainment just like going to the movies or watching tv, but you get really get good value for money with multiplayer games. you dont get good value for money with single player campaigns only.
OK, I'm glad I'm not the only one that caught on to this LOLOriginally Posted by WniO Go to original post
I'm a big fan of the co-op and multiplayer aspects of FC.
Co-Op and Multiplayer are great fun and play a pivotal role in modern games imo.
I still buy AAA games primarily for the campaigns/single player - I Skype when gaming with friends during the Single Player side as well as in co-op and MP for the "human" interaction and shared experience of the game. I'm thinking that the OP possibly tries MP but views it from a solo perspective... buddy up with other players and it really does become alot of fun... and don't mind getting killed alot.. happens to the best of us.
Co-op and MP do add longevity to any game, long after the story has been completed. At the core of Far Cry's MP is the Map Editor which adds another layer to the "Far Cry Experience". So no, MP is not killing gaming, its allowing more involvement and interaction from the player on a non-linear gaming experience.
The biggest change I have seen in gaming over recent years is players' expectations. No more are we happy to just buy a game, like it on its merits, and have fun playing - it seems everyone and his brother now like to add their 10 cents about what a game should be, including the OP.