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Top Roach help
Can't get the Top Roach challenge done. Particularly the part after checkpoint 8, the rock to inclined platform to 90° rock part. I know I gotta use the speed from the little jump after the previous checkpoint, but even with that I can't find a consistent way to do it.
I can do the rest of the track just fine (maybe with the exception of the part after checkpoint 10), but checkpoint 8 is just killing me. Anyone got any tips?
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You need to get a smooth run up from the previous jump and land on your back wheel. Don't really know how else to explain it.
Here's a video of my run.
Keep riding you'll get it in no time.
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Unfortunately I don't anyone can give you a definitive way of getting up that particular ledge. It's a real pain and I struggled for ages before finally doing this challenge. I wrote a guide to help people complete all 120 of the challenges which you can find here:
http://www.trueachievements.com/a186...chievement.htm
And this is the best advice I could offer for the Top Roach challenge, see below. Good luck, perseverance is the key!
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Top Roach: Perform a zero fault run with the Roach.
Chances are this is the last or near last challenge you have left to complete. It was the final one I needed to do and several others have commented that they think it is the toughest challenge in the game. I would definitely go along with that, I spent longer on this challenge than any others by quite a margin!
The first piece of advice I can give is make sure you can zero fault this track on the Pit Viper. If you can't zero fault it on that bike then you sure as hell won't do it on the heavy Roach! Once you have successfully zero faulted it on the Pit Viper and you think you know which techniques you need for what obstacles then you are ready to try repeating this feat on the Roach.
The second piece of advice is very important. Ensure you use the default body kit on your bike when attempting this challenge. All bike body kits are purely cosmetic according to RedLynx, the makers of this game, and do not affect your bike handling in any way but actually this is not the case. If you scroll through the available body kits for the Roach you will see that two of them (I think it's the 3rd and 5th ones in the list) have a far lower ground clearance than the others. This is a major issue when you are trying to coax the heavy Roach bike up steep steps and near-impossible platforms because it digs in to the corners of steps sooner than the others. I found this out the hard way as I originally started off this challenge with one of these two particular kits on my bike and I couldn't work out why I was having much more difficulty getting up things than other riders seemed to have. After a lot of time spent trying to work out what I was doing wrong I finally had a lightbulb moment and checked out the different body kits in the "Garage". I was astonished to find this major difference despite, as mentioned above, the claims of the game's creators that none of the body kits affect the bike handling in any way, shape or form. Take a look at the different kits and try it out for yourself, you'll soon come to the same conclusion as me - they may not affect the weight or speed of the bike, but they are not all the same and the larger kits with lower ground clearance DO affect your ability to do certain things.
The techniques you used on the Pit Viper are exactly the same for the Roach, the only difference is that your timing needs to be better, your precision needs to be absolute and lady luck needs to be riding with you!
It won't take you long to work out which are the toughest obstacles in the track on the Roach. From the start up to checkpoint 1 is quite hard but because it's right at the beginning you'll get plenty of practice at this one for sure! The final block up to the 6th checkpoint is really tough. That block between checkpoints 7 and 8 is quite hard too but luckily you usually don't crash if you fail to get up it, you merely roll back down to try again. That stupid, cursed, damn rock ledge up to checkpoint 9 should have been blown up with a grenade prior to this game being released and even when you think you know what it is you need to do to get up it, its still both stupidly tough and entirely unpredictable as to whether you'll do it. To give you the biggest chance of succeeding these are the best tips I can give here:
1. When you get up that block from checkpoint 7, you need to jump off the end with enough speed that you clear completely the level platform where the checkpoint 8 post is located and land on the downwards slope immediately after it. This tiny bit of extra speed will give you a much better chance of getting up that ledge in a moment if you can maintain it.
2. To get up that ledge you need to hit it with your back wheel with your bike at about 60-70º angle. As you front wheel drops onto the top of the ledge lean forward and pump that brake button to lift your back wheel up so that you can roll forward onto the rock.
3. Every 4 or 5 goes that you get to at least checkpoint 5 without faulting you should continue your run through to the end of the track or just before the end to make restarting quicker. The extra practice you gain by playing these later obstacles will be invaluable to you when you do start to get this far on a zero fault run. Just knowing what speed you want, getting a feel for the track and knowing what's coming next is good preparation for a successful run.
4. Apologise to your neighbours for all the cursing and screaming they're likely to hear this evening.
When you do finally get up to checkpoint 9 on a zero fault run then the jump up to checkpoint 10 is also tough and even more so up to checkpoint 11. I messed up several times on this obstacle up to checkpoint 11 whilst on a zero fault run and it's so frustrating because just getting this far feels like a minor miracle. And not only do you have to contend with the obstacle but also your nerves. If you're anything like me, I was a nervous wreck every time I got past checkpoint 9 with zero faults which certainly doesn't help!
Here's a link to my successful run (finally)!
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$9 
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I'll do it for 0.01$
