What about a BETA section in TC | Forums

[RimStar360]

We have beginner - extreme, could a BETA section be added and tracks in there delete after say 2wk?

- If bugs are identified the creator can apply a fix before fully publishing

- reduce clutter on TC

- It's good to test the water before working on something that just doesn't work well

- If creators are happy with feedback or have ironed out last min bugs they can publish as normal and keep any download stats ands likes etc

Trials has a great community and this should be encouraged

[shakeyclaret]

Online mp will solve this...if the servers work

[En0-]

Hey

I don't know why Online mp would solve that. I am sure it wouldn't actually.

We want to add a feature in track sharing to share work-in-progress tracks, for all the benefits you explained. We just have no timeline for it yet as it's not in the highest priorities.

Cheers,

[shakeyclaret]

In Evo's mp you could set up a private game with some friends and 'test' any tracks you were building before releasing them to TC to see if there were any problems.

[En0-]

Thanks for the explanation.

The MP in Fusion will be different from EVO. We'll communicate later more extensively on that, I can't say more at the moment.

Cheers,

[morrillo]

Thanks for the explanation.

The MP in Fusion will be different from EVO. We'll communicate later more extensively on that, I can't say more at the moment.

Cheers,

Please tell me you will at least be able to test other people's tracks in some way or another, this is a MASSIVE shame otherwise?

I fear you are refining options we had in Evo but not leaving us these options as well (i.e. new tournaments are a big change, but so many of us wanted the original style in addition).

I really don't think you all understand how valuable and how often this option was utilised in Evo - it has been a big letdown for builders to not be able to invite friends to help test/bug fix their creations before release.

This is what Shakey was referring to, when he said MP testing would fix the need for a beta section.

Change for change's sake is not a good thing, if you are changing the very things that made Evo great.

[En0-]

Hey Morrillo,

Yes, check my first message, we want to give a way to creators to share their track in a beta stage, outside of all the other "definitive" tracks.

Cheers,

[morrillo]

Hey Morrillo,

Yes, check my first message, we want to give a way to creators to share their track in a beta stage, outside of all the other "definitive" tracks.

Cheers,

Good to hear En0-, thanks.
It was of course already suggested in the TC dev thread so good to know it is on your to-do list somewhere.

However, simply being able to upload the track into a beta section for 'static' comments would not be that helpful imo, the great thing about EVO was being in a party with friends, commenting on the track, they could make changes, you could run it together and point out live where the issues were. It was a very dynamic experience. It would be a shame to not have this, but we wait to see what you have planned.

[En0-]

Thanks Morrillo.

The goal of the multiplayer is for people to compete together in realtime, and it was not really used on EVO.
So we'll propose a different experience for Fusion but with the same goal: people competing in realtime.

I agree with you, what you're describing is a use case that is really useful and we'll need to find a way to bring that back.
I need to understand more some of the things you say:
- Being in a party with friends
- Commenting on the track
- They could make changes
- You can run it together and point out live where the issues were
- Dynamic experience

When you say "they could make changes", what do you mean exactly? I guess they couldn't edit the track, right?

Cheers,

[En0-]

Another point for you and everyone else.

I understand that it's natural to compare EVO and Fusion, but we shouldn't forget we compare a game that has been live and updated for years with a game that is live and has been live for 3 months (and updated once with more to come).

It would be fair to compare EVO launch + 3 months and Fusion launch + 3 months
(I didn't play EVO extensively so I don't know exactly the differences)

With that in mind, the picture is not that bad, but I honestly understand the frustration and some things should already be better.