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[Chicago__AJ]

What about leaderboard recalculations? Seriously, leaderboards are the biggest draw to the Trials games and not one has worked right yet.

Hackers plague Hd and Evo, now glitched scores remain on Fusion. What a joke.

[NSP_I_VeNoMz]

^ AJ you and BigShotRob don't help by not actually going onto Evo to get the recalc. So you can't complain about how the leaderboards on Evo are messed up cause you refuse to do your part. I don't see why you won't get on the game. You said you did but you can look on the beacons if you have or not, and after you told me you went on the game, I checked and a big surprise, you weren't on there.. Also you could just start the game and go off it before you get onto the main menu when you get the recalc. As Evo is the old game I don't see why you won't just go on it to get the recalc.

[RetiredRonin]

Personally I think full resets are a really bad idea. I understand that it will give everyone a clean slate, and that it will mean everyone will be on an even playing field. But it's unfair to the thousands who didn't use the exploit and got their runs fair.

This is my point of view as well.

I have suggested an option of the community reporting runs that need removed. As it will still take forever to do this, I don't see it happening. But at least it's a more realistic option..

We all certainly appreciate the willingness of you guys to help us out. The biggest issue with community reporting is that it doesn't reduce the time it takes us to check and remove scores, but it does make the community members checking spend their time on something we would need to check anyway. 99% of the community wouldn't throw a rival under a bus for no reason, but someone out there might. So we need to make sure we put our eyes on everything that is going to get removed and we can't just take someone's word for it.

What about leaderboard recalculations?

It doesn't really help to remove scores from events if the boards aren't recalculated.

Only deleting top 20 coffin runs is a stupid idea imo
If number 21 has a coffin run he will be #1 all of a sudden, its just not fair.

We aren't just removing the top 20 runs with the exploit being used. The goal is to make the top 20 for each track in each event clear of exploits.

[Zany-Wabbit]

Quote Originally Posted by iviarkD View Post
Personally I think full resets are a really bad idea. I understand that it will give everyone a clean slate, and that it will mean everyone will be on an even playing field. But it's unfair to the thousands who didn't use the exploit and got their runs fair.
This is my point of view as well.

good enough to do it once, good enough to spend 30 to 60 seconds ish to do it again.

[RetiredRonin]

good enough to do it once, good enough to spend 30 to 60 seconds ish to do it again.

For a lot of people, the scores they have aren't from sitting down for 30-60 seconds. They are from multiple tries at completing a level before they ever got around to finishing.

[Gangly_]

good enough to do it once, good enough to spend 30 to 60 seconds ish to do it again.

You obviously aren't high ranked in this game, otherwise you would know that it takes most people a lot longer than 30-60 seconds to get a good run on a track.

[morrillo]

Hmmm, why are people thinking legit times may get removed because of it being manual...? The only times that will get removed are the ones that use the old coffin exploit and I'm pretty certain that everyone around here knows what the coffin exploit looks like....pretty easy to notice, sheesh.

Couple points DJ:

1-anything done manually has the potential for human error (look at how the wrong Uplay recommended track got added to the PS4 feed for Mentalhobbit's track);
2-How do you tell the difference between an old coffin run and a new one?

I guess I envisaged a program that checks for input from the right analogue stick automatically during a run, combined with a timestamp check for pre/post patch, but this must not be possible.

Cheers.

[Chicago__AJ]

This is my point of view as well.


We all certainly appreciate the willingness of you guys to help us out. The biggest issue with community reporting is that it doesn't reduce the time it takes us to check and remove scores, but it does make the community members checking spend their time on something we would need to check anyway. 99% of the community wouldn't throw a rival under a bus for no reason, but someone out there might. So we need to make sure we put our eyes on everything that is going to get removed and we can't just take someone's word for it.


It doesn't really help to remove scores from events if the boards aren't recalculated.


We aren't just removing the top 20 runs with the exploit being used. The goal is to make the top 20 for each track in each event clear of exploits.

Then on tracks like Ski Or Die or whatever it is, it'll still be impossible to get first without a coffin. I'm like 80th or worse on that because of coffins.

[mrjorts]

Then on tracks like Ski Or Die or whatever it is, it'll still be impossible to get first without a coffin. I'm like 80th or worse on that because of coffins.

They are going to delete however many coffins it takes until the top 20 runs have no exploits. If a track has 80 coffin runs at the top they will all be deleted. If a track has coffin runs interspersed with clean runs, then coffins will be deleted until all 20 runs at the top are clean, no matter how many coffin runs that means.

[BigSh0tRob]

We aren't just removing the top 20 runs with the exploit being used. The goal is to make the top 20 for each track in each event clear of exploits.

Okay, looks like i misunderstood you. My point remains the same though.
Its not really fair to the lower ranked players who might not be able to beat a "lower than top 20" coffin run after the clean up.
There will still be countless coffin runs left, only not in the top 20.
Only cleaning up the top 20 seems kinda random and its unfair to the rest of the players.