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    Dislike bar, percentage is missing

    As you can see in the picture below that PC version somehow the red dislike bar is not showing in the track information.
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    En0-'s Avatar Trials Developer
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    Hello Deagle,

    Yes, the PC version was a little bit ahead of the console version in the last update, so it includes some updates that are not yet live on consoles.

    This change was motivated to make the interface looks less negative. So the green bar is still the percentage of "likes", the number of likes can be seen above and the number of dislikes can be seen in the track details.

    Cheers,
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    Greetings,

    Why not have 3 bars;

    Like
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    None of the above
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    En0-'s Avatar Trials Developer
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    Hello,

    I am not a design or user interface expert and I was not in the discussion when we did that, so the honest answer is: I don't know
    I know it's not a good practice to overload an interface with too many information and sometime choices need to be made, but that's just a guess.

    Cheers,
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    Greetings,

    Well the idea of a user interface is to give/accept information, now saying that it would be easier if like/dislike was shown, saves all the mental maths. But also having the 'None of the Above' option shows, at a glance, how many people have not liked or disliked the track.
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    Only having option to like or dislike was a really terrible idea from who brought that in. Most of the "like" ratings are above 90%, which makes the crappy tracks look it's a masterpiece, and the tracks made with hard effort does only make them look like it's average. We wanted 5 or 10 star ratings for the different aspects of the tracks, not dumb down with a YouTube (now turning into Facebook) -style rating. Now I can't decide if I should like/dislike the tracks or not, because they can have great scenery but bad driving line, and someone cannot just like a track because he likes the scenery when he doesn't like the driving line, or cannot dislike the track for the driving line when he likes the scenery. WELCOME TO THE FUTURE!!!
    RedLynx, you really messed up the track central 5 times worse with many reasons. Stand up, make a track central which makes everything intuitive and equal to everybody!
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    I don't like that you can skip ratings, and I agree a generic up/down is a bit bland but I supposed it was to keep it as simple as possible.

    I'd like to know what aspects of a track are disliked, like Driveline or Deco or proper Difficulty setting, so builders can learn from it.
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    En0-'s Avatar Trials Developer
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    Hello guys,

    @Blaster: When we do the effort of communicating changes, opening discussions with players, it's not really motivating to have this kind of post. Please help us by staying constructive and removing all hate from your posts.

    @Teri: Yes, I agree with you, that would be interesting for builders to have more detailed feedback. However, it's not in our priorities at the moment (other improvements for Track Central, online multiplayer, tournaments, etc...). We're going to work for a long time on Fusion, so at some point it could come back as a priority. For now, gathering feedback on the forums as you do still allow you to get some valuable feedback. But I agree, having it in-game on a larger user base with statistics would be a very good thing.

    Cheers,
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    Blastergamer does make a valid point though, the rating system in evo was much better - now the game is set in the future but the rating system is stuck in the dark ages.
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    I agree, the ratings system has taken a step backwards. only allowing a like or dislike option really restricts any kind of useful feedback or information about a track, and taking away the red dislike further restricts it. Could a dev perhaps explain why this decision was made and how it is supposed to be better as I don't really get it.

    @ En0- I think we understand that this wont be in the priorities list but the question is why was it implemented like this in the first place? I would like to hear the reasons why Track central is the way it is, after all the suggestions from the Evolution community. We appreciate your replies and information, but the company line seems to be "we will continually update and improve trials". I feel it should have been sorted before you took the money off the fans. Don't want to be too down, I just am not getting any use out of Track Central at the mo, and it was a massive part of Evo for me.
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