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    Originally Posted by Fanantic Go to original post
    When it's ready then.. lol
    In the future,.. Wellcome to the future.
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    tc is so bad im over it..

    1 you cant find ANYTHING
    2 ratings are screwed
    3 no new tracks will get good ratings ever with this system
    4 custom feeds despreately needs more parameters, as time, friends etc
    5 after finding a good tracks and spending time to get a good run only to find out the game decided not to save your run into the leaderboards


    and going by the spins put out by ubilynx we wont see changes in a loong time, if ever. amazing really, the devs killing the most vital part of the franchise like this. no tc, no longevity at all.
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    We haven't announced dates yet; however, I can confirm we do have several fixes in the works and more coming down the line. Unfortunately, we cannot announce dates due to the fact that they may change. Our community team will update you all as soon as we can.

    We are listening to all your feedback and are working hard to implement them.
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    Originally Posted by Johkr Go to original post
    We haven't announced dates yet; however, I can confirm we do have several fixes in the works and more coming down the line. Unfortunately, we cannot announce dates due to the fact that they may change. Our community team will update you all as soon as we can.

    We are listening to all your feedback and are working hard to implement them.
    Please extend the track description character limit, add a highest rated this week (highest rated of all categories) feed.
    Why are there all these limitations in Fusion? The one limitation we actually demand (upload limit) is not there. What is your reasoning for this? You don't want to limit the little kiddies because it's bad for business?

    Redlynx you let us down. Someone high up is negotiating unfairly.poorly.
    What about the new hopefuls you hired from this very forum? Was it their dream to make a mess of things, OR the greatest Trials experience of all time! It may have been your plan to build Fusion into the greatest over time since the beginning, but Fusion just isn't acceptable in it's current state (editor aside, but TC is a mess so why even build...).

    Nah, I forgive you guys...except whoever it was who made the call for the music to be predominantly dubstep! This guy I challenge to an office wrestling duel to the death!
    However, it does sort of go with the theme, which gives me hope that the DLC, each with new themes, will have different genres for each pack. That would be excellent.
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    Originally Posted by NSPIV Go to original post
    Why is it that the Dev's or employees seem to have a reputation of... Keeping to certain threads. 95% of threads there are BIG issues that people want answers for, they don't seem to even say 'we don't know' they just probably read it and not answer. But on a couple forums they are active and reply to people. So strange.
    Because we can't see every thread, it's just not possible. There are currently stickied threads that we view fairly often. If your post fits into one of those threads, then it would be best to put it there instead of making a new one.

    Originally Posted by PanicshadeLWK Go to original post
    Make a thread that says how great they are and they will all break their necks trying to respond as fast as they can. Make a post pointing out errors/problems and it's like they have to play rock paper scissors to see who gets stuck with having to give the "we are working on it" post of the day.
    Both sebbbi and myself have posted quite a few times in threads about community feedback, we can't post in every thread.

    Originally Posted by apdenton1 Go to original post
    The one limitation we actually demand (upload limit) is not there. What is your reasoning for this? You don't want to limit the little kiddies because it's bad for business?
    I can't speak for anyone else at RedLynx, but I am 100% absolutely against imposing an upload limit. If someone wants to make and share 15 versions of a track that has you driving down stairs then, as crappy as you may find those tracks, he or she has every right to do so. What if someone makes 5 different tracks and wants to upload them as a set? It's the same idea, they would only be allowed to upload one a day? Tracks have ratings, if a track is rated low, you may want to skip it, if it's rated high, then maybe try it, that does NOT guarantee that anyone will like every highly rated track on Track Central.

    There are a LOT of people who are not members of the forums who have reached out to me about extreme and ninja tracks in Trials Evolution, namely that they were always in the highest rated, and that they had no interest in playing them. Should we also block people from making and sharing that kind of track? Absolutely not. You guys are free to create pretty much whatever you want, but so is any other person who plays Trials Fusion.

    The hardcore Ninja/Extreme crowd want their favorites difficulty more prominent, and the less hardcore players want "fun" creations (golf, dunk, and impossible stairs) to be more prominent. We have given you the ability to add 4 new feeds. Do the searches need new features? Yes. Are there things that can be improved upon? Yes, but blocking the content that any player wants, and doesn't break moderation rules, is something that I hope never happens.
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    It's not about preventing people from making crappy tracks, it's about preventing spamming. People would still be free to make crappy tracks AND spam them, but only twice every 48 hours ideally.
    The "good" builders would have the same limitations as the "bad". Hindering the spam lets all creators have fair time in the feeds and with a limit of two uploads per 48 hours, that leaves room for correcting an upload error.

    What if someone makes 5 different tracks and wants to upload them as a set? It's the same idea, they would only be allowed to upload one a day? l
    Good point, but when has this ever happened? And I believe this is a fair sacrifice to prevent spamming. They waited all that time between each build/track to release them all as a batch, they can wait 1 day for each upload.
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    Originally Posted by apdenton1 Go to original post
    It's not about preventing people from making crappy tracks, it's about preventing spamming. People would still be free to make crappy tracks AND spam them, but only twice every 48 hours ideally.
    I read elsewhere (the topic that lists features needed) that we cannot delete a track once released? To me, its not just about spamming; its about not being able to clean up mistakes. To me, its fairly likely that someone who releases the same track 15 times may not be aware of what they are doing. . . .just because that will eventually fall to the bottom of TC is just a cheap way of avoiding the issue. And....I am pretty certain that when somebody releases both "XXXX" and "XXXX ramp fixed" tracks. . .they would instead REALLY like to clean up after themselves in some way. . .possibly by deleting/replacing the previous track.
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    Originally Posted by ShiftySamurai Go to original post
    ...I am 100% absolutely against imposing an upload limit. If someone wants to make and share 15 versions of a track that has you driving down stairs then, as crappy as you may find those tracks, he or she has every right to do so. What if someone makes 5 different tracks and wants to upload them as a set? It's the same idea, they would only be allowed to upload one a day?...
    I do not see this the same way as you.

    1st: One track a day? Let's be serious here, if it was to be capped it does not have to be 1 a day, that would just be bad, but 3 tracks a day or 5 tracks for 48 hours seems very reasonable to me.

    2nd: No cap basically means that every decent and reasonable creator has to pay for the selfish ones. Sorry but it's like schools in America lowering the standards so more failing students don't fail, in the end, the pace for everybody is set by the low achievers, and it makes things progressively worse. I think a reasonable cap benefits 95%++ of players, and no cap rewards the selfish and the obnoxious, please do not let the minority of players with the lowest standards set the pace for everybody.
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    Originally Posted by ShiftySamurai Go to original post
    We have given you the ability to add 4 new feeds.
    No, you didn't.

    All the "Add Feed" button does is open a search menu, with VERY BASIC and poor options (type, difficulty search by gamertag)
    Doesn't even have sort by highest downloaded/rated week/months/all time or any of that !

    And after you re search is completed, nothing else happen.
    You not creating any feed or customizing anything.

    That is on the PC version, check it yourself if you doubt me.

    Maybe it's time to get off your white horse and go experience Track Central the way it is for your community!
    That's what CM do, not just some damage control that can only last for so long
    It's not personnal man but you seem way off what's going on.

    Like when you say Track Central is working as intended in some other topic.
    IT IS NOT. And saying that is not an opinion it's a fact.

    Otherwise the add feed function would let me..... ADD A FEED !!!
    Right ?

    Get your act together Redlynx
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    Adding a feed is actually saving a custom search, you are correct. You are also correct that search options and result sorting is very limited. I've never claimed otherwise. But you can save 4 custom searches that act like a feed when you enter them and hit search.

    Originally Posted by FR_Dam143 Go to original post
    Maybe it's time to get off your white horse and go experience Track Central the way it is for your community!
    That's what CM do, not just some damage control that can only last for so long
    It's not personnal man but you seem way off what's going on.

    Like when you say Track Central is working as intended in some other topic.
    IT IS NOT. And saying that is not an opinion it's a fact.
    I have a bit of experience with Trials Fusion's Track Central. I'm not sure if you are inferring that I have access to an alternative version or something like that, are you?

    I never said that Track Central was perfect, I've actually stated in other threads that it has limited search options and that there are changes that could be made to benefit the community. That being said, other than some search results showing in reverse alphanumeric order Track Central is working as intended, which is how it was designed. That's not my opinion, that is a fact. There are things that the community wants that I agree with, but saying that it is broken because it doesn't work in the fashion you would like it to is incorrect.

    I've mentioned this in another thread as well, but there are issues that, in my mind, are far more pressing than Track Central changes. People who can't play the game and can't redeem passes for content that they have paid for, regardless of the current availability of that content, should expect us to handle their issues first. I am relatively sure that I am not so far off after all.
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