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    Originally Posted by roteacher Go to original post
    Wrong times remained , replays just died ( most of them I think ) besides it's just a bad move , they actually have to change their minds and fast , I have to play those tracks again really ? ( Same mistake with not releasing beta on steam from the start )
    This is pretty much standard with almost any Beta. The only case where this does not apply is with Early Access to titles and even then they sometimes have some sort reset.

    Originally Posted by roteacher Go to original post
    TEGE beta was almost a full game , almost a early release , we know you can make this happen so why did you denied this in the first place , we PC players got less then the console players HD and Evo ( no DLC and port ) and now this , really who made this decision and why and is he sick or something
    So we have stated that more content is coming to this beta. If you look in game you will see new events unlock on April 5th and April 12th. Also, what PC players get that console users don't is to play the game (albeit only a portion) one month before anyone else.

    Developing for PC is a bit different than developing for consoles. I understand how you feel as I am primarily a PC gamer. However, that said, this is Beta and not the final release. So that means that we are still tweaking and working on things. There will be a patch soon to address some of the issues that users have reported.

    Originally Posted by roteacher Go to original post
    60 FPS capped and now time deletion , I will not pre order this without a official answer that times will remain , I will not be s**t on by console users again , NOW ANNOUNCE THIS IMMEDIATLY , sorry if poor English was used in writing but there was a flaming inferno in my head at the time .
    Again, you're playing Beta.

    Originally Posted by roteacher Go to original post
    Consoles 16 , PC 24 april , where is the ****in equality in that , please stop insulting us with poor judgement in the simplest of decisions .
    While I understand the frustration here as I am a big PC gamer, we are taking the necessary steps to implement bug fixes and optimization fixes for the PC version. Many PC titles are not released until months after their console counterparts. While that shouldn't make you feel better, just know that you will have contributed to making Trials Fusion awesome on the PC and you were able to play before anyone.

    Originally Posted by roteacher Go to original post
    Yours truly not zombie user .

    QcChopper Does it really matter? ... are you a ROCK ?

    Think man , think for god sake , most games users are not as good as you and take time more the your hours , days to finish these tracks with solid times and then they wake up with nothing , not knowing the reason , what do you think they feel HUH ?

    Probably laughing your ... off because it will take you 1 , 2 minutes to finish a track with good times and them couple of hours , but as long is QcChopper is satisfied what's the point on pleasing the zombies that can not even talk right ?
    I'm glad you're not a zombie. But zombies are incapable of insulting another human being. Please remember there are other humans behind these aliases and to respect our forum rules.

    Thanks.

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    Originally Posted by roteacher Go to original post
    They gave more to consoles players it's undeniable , but they can keep this small thing from us to furthermore advantage the console player is disgusting, literally feeling the shame of explaining the obvious .
    PC Players and Console players receive the same items. The only exception to this is that NCSA (North, Central, South, America) receives one additional item with pre-order on console. If you are in Europe, you receive the same items as console users.

    Originally Posted by roteacher Go to original post
    But they like not to communicate to their customers other then a robotic answer that you can hardly not guess and they presume the "we appear not to have time to answer" will stick , that being the official policy .
    *WAVES* Hi.
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    Limited early acess or not, there is still no reason to reset the times after the beta.
    It was promised to have simultaneous launch between all platforms
    I feel strongly about my stance on deleting the times, especially considering consoles get full game acess 8/9 days previous

    Ultimately i'm just a voice here, and what I say most probably wont change anything, But it is the way I feel about it.
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    I am in favor of a reset, if ANYTHING other than graphics are changed. Which is going to be the case, so i don't see how you CANT be in favor of a reset.

    Either, because of changes, you can now get a faster time, in which case who cares if they remove your current time.
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    because of changes, you can no longer get as fast of a time as you could in the beta, which damages the integrity of the leader-boards.

    What is so hard to understand here noobs?

    +1 UbiJohkr, I shall stand with you in these times of conflict friend.
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    Lets not get ahead of ourselves, that would only be IF they change anything.
    This entire time we have been discussing the deletion as if nothing that affects gameplay would change, physics etc, you must of missed that.
    Constructed your'e entire post in that basis, lol good job.
    If they change something other then graphics, obviously a reset is the right thing to do,
    If they don't change anything other then graphics, I.e not changing the way the bike operates or individual features of the driving lines then I still strongly believe it is the wrong thing to do.

    I wouldn't expect you to understand vantier, you've never speedran single player tracks to the point where PB times are barely beatable at the highest tier
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    Originally Posted by The_Blaze_Jp Go to original post
    Limited early acess or not, there is still no reason to reset the times after the beta.
    It was promised to have simultaneous launch between all platforms
    I feel strongly about my stance on deleting the times, especially considering consoles get full game acess 8/9 days previous

    Ultimately i'm just a voice here, and what I say most probably wont change anything, But it is the way I feel about it.
    So I will say that it is possible that times in beta won't stand since all the bikes are not unlocked yet. Regardless if you get the best possible time ever on one track with, for example, the Roach, it's possible that time could be beat on launch day when all bikes are available.

    However, I understand that competitive drive and that hunger, and you would want to save your times so you could preserve how well you did in beta. I will say that we will have a lot of other ways to encourage that competitive drive. But Beta is, well, Beta. I would recommend learning the tracks as best as you can for launch.

    Right now, we have people working on the feedback and suggestions you all have provided on the forums. Some, we already have fixes for, but I will let the PC team provide more info on that when they can speak more on that. That would not be possible without your testing and feedback.

    EDIT: Vantier, please also remember our Forum Rules. Refrain from leetspeak like that, this isn't the [insert famous FPS game name here] forums. We were all noobs at one point.
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    Doh

    No reason to pre order for me then , having to play the same tracks again is STUPID . ( There is life , other games , tons of other games to finish )

    Vantier genuine ZOMBIE , congratulations . ( Zombie , people that think only of themselves )

    Btw UbiJohkr I already knew everything you said and sadly even this was predictable :
    Originally Posted by UbiJohkr Go to original post
    *WAVES* Hi.
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    Originally Posted by roteacher Go to original post
    No reason to pre order for me then , having to play the same tracks again is STUPID . ( There is life , other games , tons of other games to finish )

    Vantier genuine ZOMBIE , congratulations . ( Zombie , people that think only of themselves )

    Btw UbiJohkr I already knew everything you said and sadly even this was predictable :
    How am i zombie, I am looking at the intergrity of the leaderboards, which is in (almost) EVERYONES best interest.
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    W4wRQE

    Originally Posted by Vantier Go to original post
    How am i zombie, I am looking at the intergrity of the leaderboards, which is in (almost) EVERYONES best interest.
    I said ZOMBIE .
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    @roteacher - It's unfortunate that you don't like the answer that Johkr gave you, but it is the only answer to be had on this subject. The beta leaderboards will be reset before launch, if not at other points in the beta. Trials Fusion, and all Trials games, are not about playing each track one time, but about competing against the leaderboards and playing tracks many, many, many times.

    Being mad about playing a track again in Trials is almost like being mad that you shoot at people in an FPS game. Or that you have to select plays in a sports game. It's an integral part of the Trials experience. To my understanding, the leaderboards are absolutely, positively, 100% going to be reset at least at launch, even if they are not reset for testing purposes at other times in the beta test.

    Please refrain from belittling and insulting forum staff, and cross-posting their posts in threads that do not pertain to the thread in which they were originally posted.
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