How do you feel about the Trials World Championship System? | Forums

[willyums]

People have that idea because this is how the championship is set up at the moment.

No, the championship is set up in a way that anyone can qualify on any system & and ultimately they'll be playing against people from both systems anyway.

It's like sports, people qualify in their country and the best of those have to compete against the best from other country's. It's not like they say "hey, your best was 5 sec longer then most of the other people from other country's, so you can't come to the finals, even if you are the best of your country"

Except qualifying here isn't governed by nationality, if it was you would have a point and it would actually be possible (and worthwhile) to enforce it.
We're talking about playing essentially the same game solely depending on what system is available to the individual.

And if you would stand by your statement, then why even bother with a championship? Just give prizes immediatly to the best skilled players then (like top 6 players on the global lb)

Firstly because global leaderboard ranking after nearly a year and half is a very different type of competition to live multiplayer, especially with high stakes.
Secondly because they obviously wanted to stage a big Trials event, not just give things away to people for what they have already done.

This discussion is only here because most of you guys are being egoistic, I can't see any other reason why people are still raging about it.

To be honest, that could easily be flipped and said back to you PC players, who initiated all of this out of concern for not qualifying themselves.

RL made the rules. and they won't be changing it for this championship, so the only thing you can do is give healthy input, so they can improve the championship in the future, not hating on people who don't agree with you. Life isn't fair, accept it and deal with it.

Again, what you said there would make far more sense if it was said to you, not by you.
RL did make the rules, and there are none to prevent xbox players from qualifying on PC because there is less competition on there - they wont be changing it because they cant enforce it anyway.
In the other thread, I sympathised with your position on this and I gave polite (and healthy) input, most of which was ignored - bottom line if it happens, as you said, accept it and deal with it.

[IImayneII]

WILLYUMZ, I'm sorry that you took my reply so personal. It was not because I quoted you I wanted to attack you, and it wasn't meant to say your post wasn't a polite input. It was meant as a general reply, to all trials players (not as a pc/ xbox players target).

Yes we are talking about people qualifying on the platform they want, but pc and xbox is seperate until the finals. I did not meant with this xbox players should stay on xbox, just that the two platforms are seperated for the most part in the rules and troughout the championship.

And again, my response wasn't based on me being a pc player, but a trials player. I think both party's are going to far with this discussion. Like I said, accept it and deal with it, on either side (xbox and pc)

[willyums]

I didnt take your post personally at all, Im not entering the competition on either platform, doesnt affect me at all but I still have an opinion on it.

This is part of a post from Shifty in the other thread.

We are looking for the best eligible player, not so much "The Best PC" and "The Best Xbox" players, so let's all start up our games and see who can hit the top of the leaderboards. You can't "win" on both platforms, so I don't see as though it much matters which platform people play on.

[IImayneII]

This is part of a post from Shifty in the other thread.

We are looking for the best eligible player, not so much "The Best PC" and "The Best Xbox" players, so let's all start up our games and see who can hit the top of the leaderboards. You can't "win" on both platforms, so I don't see as though it much matters which platform people play on.

Well, I think all of us can conclude that the rules are not fitting this statement in any way. If they where looking for the best eligible player they should have set the qualifying rules that the 12 top times could continue to the next round regardless of the platform. Seperating these qualifying places only seperates the community even more, like we can see in all these discussions.
It matters now witch platform you play on, because on pc there are still less skilled players then on the xbox. Coming over to pc only for this championship is cheating imo because you know you get a bigger advantage of qualifying, but this also implies xbox players have a disadvantage on pc players because they have a larger skilled player base. The longer I think of it, the more I think this championship isn't set up fairly, for both party's, if the main goal is to find the best eligible player.

[willyums]

Maybe a better thing would have been two separate comps, although the xbox to pc problem would still exist.
Maybe they could have used pre-existing global rankings to find entrants, rather than qualifying rounds which would have prevented any casual system switching.
Maybe they could change it to "the 12 fastest times regardless of system"... (best option for future comps imo)

In any event, the current championship allows for people to use whatever version of Evo they like to qualify, and without that - some very skilled xbl riders could miss out on places they arguably deserve because they chose not to switch to PC when gold edition was released.

I think the extra competition should be welcomed not opposed.
And lets not forget there could be many riders who fail to qualify on xbox, who would have been fast enough to qualify on PC - but dont have a PC/cant run gold edition.
Its not an ideal scenario all-round.

[IImayneII]

Maybe they could change it to "the 12 fastest times regardless of system"... (best option for future comps imo)

I agree, this seems, to me, like the only acceptable solution for both party's.

[TeriXeri]

In the end, may the best players win in the paris finals, regardless of pc or xbox, actual show-floor performance is always unpredictable, the assembly tournament showed a lot of "simple" faults even while they are good riders, you can't reset 10 times till you get a good tournament under stress like you can with a qualifier time trial.

Also supercross isn't very predictable either unless you play the tracks many many times to remember each timer saver and then have the ability to race your own perfect undistracted race which seems very hard to do under tournament stress at a busy event

(and of course they can use custom tournament tracks noone knows of them beforehand) anything is possible

Even on the livestream it happens and it called "stream effect".

[xzamplez]

People have that idea because this is how the championship is set up at the moment.

It's like sports, people qualify in their country and the best of those have to compete against the best from other country's. It's not like they say "hey, your best was 5 sec longer then most of the other people from other country's, so you can't come to the finals, even if you are the best of your country"
And if you would stand by your statement, then why even bother with a championship? Just give prizes immediatly to the best skilled players then (like top 6 players on the global lb)

This discussion is only here because most of you guys are being egoistic, I can't see any other reason why people are still raging about it. RL made the rules. and they won't be changing it for this championship, so the only thing you can do is give healthy input, so they can improve the championship in the future, not hating on people who don't agree with you. Life isn't fair, accept it and deal with it.

And if xbox players want to come to the pc to qualify, just know you will be frowned upon by alot of people. If you don't care being seen as a ******bag for your future trials career then go ahead and show us your true self.

Yes the championship is set up like this. The championship is also set up to allow platform switch-overs.

I think the effect of live racing might give the event event a less-than-predictable outcome.

It has nothing to do with being egotistic. I has to do with what is fair for the Trials community as a whole. I have already stated that this is not a plea to change the rules for this championship. Most of what's been said is healthy input.

I don't believe it makes them a ******bag at all, personally. I believe it prevent the less-skilled players from competing. If they're good enough to be in a competition to find the "World's best Trials player", then they have to be able to hold their own against the Xbox players.

[iStriide]

Maybe they could change it to "the 12 fastest times regardless of system"... (best option for future comps imo)

I agree, this seems, to me, like the only acceptable solution for both party's.

This would definitely be the best way to do it.

[Barrybarfly]

Right. I have gone through and removed any posts I felt went off topic at any point. If you guys want to contribute to the thread in a constructive mature manner and leave any issues at the door great! As you can see, most posts have been left as that is what has taken place to the greater extent.

I dont care what is said on XBL, in chats, in PM's or anywhere else. Keep this thread on topic or your post will be deleted. That means, 25 lines of sensible discussion and one remark that isn't and I delete your post.

There has been no favouritism, no requests for moderation, no nothing. I'm just doing my job as a mod and cleaning this thread up a bit.