Microsoft backed out. No more Kinect! | Forums

[jook13]

I don't have an extra $100 laying around to throw at something that would just sit in the box for its entire life. People that didn't buy kinect most likely wont use kinect 2. I don't think having 100% saturation will help kinect game sales. Anything that devs "innovate" will not be worth $100. You can quote me on that after 5 years of nothing but shovel ware and initially neat, but ultimately useless game "enhancements".

Agreed - imo some people seem to be diving head-first toward the idea that the "future of gaming" is gaming without a controller, and the sooner we accept it and embrace it, the better - and for the life of me, I can't figure out why.
Its only the future if we all want it to be the future, and clearly a lot of people don't.

And yes, people claim that the potential of Kinect can only be unlocked if the devs know everyone has it, therefore making their investment in it less risky. But you know what, if they wanna 'force' Kinect on us, they should have unlocked that potential already, regardless of the risk - we shouldn't have to pay an extra 33% and "trust" MS when they tell us Kinect 2 will be revolutionary.
We shouldn't have to because they should have already proven it to us with Kinect 1, and they didn't.. hence nobody wanting it.
It's their own fault it failed, not the consumers for being narrow-minded.

I think we are arguing different things.

Microsoft created the Kinect and they find great value in it, not just in gaming but for enhancing the overall experience of their product. Their business model created a situation where the Kinect was viewed as a necessary component to the xbox.

It doesn't matter whether you would use it, care for it or have 100$ extra to spend on something you don't care for. From their point of view an xbox without the kinect is an unfinished product ergo the price.

You find value on whatever you want, look I paid 600 bucks for the playstation when it first came out. I didn't care for blu-ray and to this day I still don't, since with my current setup I don't really gain the benefits of having a Blu-Ray player. I didn't have an option to get a DVD version of it and I should not have expected one. Considering that the Blu-Ray was so slow the games needed mandatory installations that where just annoying.

But it was their business model and they believed the PS3 wasn't complete without the Blu-Ray so it wasn't a real choice for me. Them creating a version without it would be great feature for me, but not for them.

I hope you guys see what I'm trying to say. You guys don't like it and I get that, but in the grand scheme of things I can see why Microsoft is doing it just like Sony did.

Microsoft finds great value in Kinect because they invested so much money into it during the crazy Wii rush. Now, people are over the whole motion gaming thing. We got our taste of it with the Wii and Kinect1. We saw how it sucks and isnt close to as good as traditional controls and now most people dont want to mess with it anymore. Microsoft invested so much into the damn thing that by god, they will force it to work.

I predict that PS4 will sell much more than xbone at first. They will eventually have to cut their losses. They will make a cheaper version with no kinect and the whole camera will fade into memory within a few years, just like so many other lame add-ons of videogame past. The one thing that will never fade is a controller with buttons on it.

This is a discussion about the next gen xbox, and there are a lot of us who dont want kinect. We could simply buy PS4 and ignore the xbox1 and keep to ourselves.... But this is a discussion and we are simply saying why we dont want the xbox.

A lot of people didnt see the value of the Bluray in the PS4 at first, just the same as you. But most people simply didnt buy the system until a few years later. Same goes with this situation, I dont see $500 of value in the xbone, which is why I wont buy it.

[GameScrub]

I don't have an extra $100 laying around to throw at something that would just sit in the box for its entire life. People that didn't buy kinect most likely wont use kinect 2. I don't think having 100% saturation will help kinect game sales. Anything that devs "innovate" will not be worth $100. You can quote me on that after 5 years of nothing but shovel ware and initially neat, but ultimately useless game "enhancements".

Agreed - imo some people seem to be diving head-first toward the idea that the "future of gaming" is gaming without a controller, and the sooner we accept it and embrace it, the better - and for the life of me, I can't figure out why.
Its only the future if we all want it to be the future, and clearly a lot of people don't.

And yes, people claim that the potential of Kinect can only be unlocked if the devs know everyone has it, therefore making their investment in it less risky. But you know what, if they wanna 'force' Kinect on us, they should have unlocked that potential already, regardless of the risk - we shouldn't have to pay an extra 33% and "trust" MS when they tell us Kinect 2 will be revolutionary.
We shouldn't have to because they should have already proven it to us with Kinect 1, and they didn't.. hence nobody wanting it.
It's their own fault it failed, not the consumers for being narrow-minded.

I think we are arguing different things.

Microsoft created the Kinect and they find great value in it, not just in gaming but for enhancing the overall experience of their product. Their business model created a situation where the Kinect was viewed as a necessary component to the xbox.

It doesn't matter whether you would use it, care for it or have 100$ extra to spend on something you don't care for. From their point of view an xbox without the kinect is an unfinished product ergo the price.

You find value on whatever you want, look I paid 600 bucks for the playstation when it first came out. I didn't care for blu-ray and to this day I still don't, since with my current setup I don't really gain the benefits of having a Blu-Ray player. I didn't have an option to get a DVD version of it and I should not have expected one. Considering that the Blu-Ray was so slow the games needed mandatory installations that where just annoying.

But it was their business model and they believed the PS3 wasn't complete without the Blu-Ray so it wasn't a real choice for me. Them creating a version without it would be great feature for me, but not for them.

I hope you guys see what I'm trying to say. You guys don't like it and I get that, but in the grand scheme of things I can see why Microsoft is doing it just like Sony did.

Microsoft finds great value in Kinect because they invested so much money into it during the crazy Wii rush. Now, people are over the whole motion gaming thing. We got our taste of it with the Wii and Kinect1. We saw how it sucks and isnt close to as good as traditional controls and now most people dont want to mess with it anymore. Microsoft invested so much into the damn thing that by god, they will force it to work.

I predict that PS4 will sell much more than xbone at first. They will eventually have to cut their losses. They will make a cheaper version with no kinect and the whole camera will fade into memory within a few years, just like so many other lame add-ons of videogame past. The one thing that will never fade is a controller with buttons on it.

This is a discussion about the next gen xbox, and there are a lot of us who dont want kinect. We could simply buy PS4 and ignore the xbox1 and keep to ourselves.... But this is a discussion and we are simply saying why we dont want the xbox.

A lot of people didnt see the value of the Bluray in the PS4 at first, just the same as you. But most people simply didnt buy the system until a few years later. Same goes with this situation, I dont see $500 of value in the xbone, which is why I wont buy it.

Fair enough, I understand why you guys are disillusioned with Kinect and Microsoft. So hopefully they will rectify their business model to gather your and many other peoples support.

I'm getting both, but I hope they do deliver something cool with the Kinect.

=D

[Blastergamer]

I hope they do deliver something cool with the Kinect.

Agreed. The most fun part is using the Kinect voice recognition bing search and seeing what words it comes out different than said!

[rlmergeuser]

Playing and jumping around some fragile and very expensive electronics.
Why would anybody do that?

[GameScrub]

LOL I had tons of fun playing kinect adventures with my kid and Ninja Fruit.

Playing fruit ninja with multiple ppl in small space allowed for some interesting whacks in the face haha and jumping from screen to **** up your opponent. I loved it when games took pictures of you and you could post them. That is when you get silly and have fun.

The other day my wife is watching a trailer on xbox videos, I yelled XBOX GO HOME and kicked her out hahahahahaha!

Lets see what kinect 2.0 can do, if it has better voice recognition that would be great.

You take out of it what you put in it. If you go with a close mind from the get go nothing will impress you. Just have fun hehe.

lol couldn't find some of my kinect sport pics. But when you see a 260 pound guy jumping that leads to some funny ****.

[Blastergamer]

Playing and jumping around some fragile and very expensive electronics.
Why would anybody do that?

Please, that wasn't because jumping too much around, it was because there was a chair, and chairs don't belong there when playing Kinect!!

Kinect isn't fragile, some people are.