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    LukeMSki's Avatar Senior Member
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    Re: Frustrated with difficulty levels set by level makers

    Originally Posted by Curunir
    Can I send direct feedback to the track maker through the ingame Track Central interface?

    Also, can a track maker change the rating of the track once it's been uploaded?

    If both of those are a "yes", then I stand corrected and indeed did a bad thing. On the other hand, if you expect me to scout the internet for the author and send them feedback there...
    Or if my feedback doesn't change the fact that a hard track will forever remain labeled Easy and annoy other people, this again makes the whole process kinda useless, preventing future disaster at best.

    Judging by the hostile tone of some of the replies I get here, I also get the feeling that this community is already half-full of snotty elitists who are so full of themselves and are so sure of their superiority and better judgment, that even if I send feedback, as long as the exchange remains between me and the level maker, I'd get a reply along the lines of "lolz learn 2 play, kiddo".
    Isn't there some way to message somebody through uPlay, this way you could message them.

    No they cannot alter the difficulty after they released but telling them about it may make them think about it when they build a new track. His current track may be labeled wrong, but if no one ever tells him, he will continue to do. This might mean people like you rate the track poorly, along with other, the builder gets discouraged, and then you have lost a potentially great creator. So do a favor to yourself, the creator, and the community and message this guy telling him to be aware of what he labels the track difficulty as.
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    Re: Frustrated with difficulty levels set by level makers

    Originally Posted by smeghead89
    yes you can send an xbox live msg to the track creator and i often get msgs of constructive criticism to say that something isnt quite right and i use this advice and am thankful for any1 who takes the time to send me the msg just as long as it is not malicious and just as i would hope that they are thankful that i took the time to make a track for them to play, we are not game designers and we are not professionals we play the game like you and we all learn from each other, this whole forum is about helping each other out pretty much imo,

    and no unfortuanately the track cannot be rendered once it is shared but at least the creator can be made aware its issues for future tracks, we all make mistakes and this is how we learn, i mean no hostile from my post
    This is the PC section.
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    Re: Frustrated with difficulty levels set by level makers

    Originally Posted by LukeMSki
    Originally Posted by smeghead89
    yes you can send an xbox live msg to the track creator and i often get msgs of constructive criticism to say that something isnt quite right and i use this advice and am thankful for any1 who takes the time to send me the msg just as long as it is not malicious and just as i would hope that they are thankful that i took the time to make a track for them to play, we are not game designers and we are not professionals we play the game like you and we all learn from each other, this whole forum is about helping each other out pretty much imo,

    and no unfortuanately the track cannot be rendered once it is shared but at least the creator can be made aware its issues for future tracks, we all make mistakes and this is how we learn, i mean no hostile from my post
    This is the PC section.
    sorry
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    Re: Frustrated with difficulty levels set by level makers

    Originally Posted by eflixxx
    consider tracks in tc a gift, not something you can demand to be made after your spesifications.
    This is exactly the kind of stuck-up attitude that I had in mind.

    I'm afraid the lack of ingame feedback makes the whole procedure of telling map makers they may have misjudged their map's difficulty completely inapplicable.
    You don't honestly expect me to try and find every mapmaker who made a Hard map and uploaded it as Easy in UPlay and then send them feedback when they're online, do you?
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    Re: Frustrated with difficulty levels set by level makers

    no.

    i expect you to be greatful for the countless hours dudes have put into creating a ton of insane creations.

    if you feel a few is labeled wrong, move along.
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    Re: Frustrated with difficulty levels set by level makers

    Originally Posted by eflixxx
    You don't honestly expect me to try and find every mapmaker who made a Hard map and uploaded it as Easy in UPlay and then send them feedback when they're online, do you?
    I hate UPlay's social features. It needs a true messaging system like XBL.
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    Re: Frustrated with difficulty levels set by level makers

    i agree as i said with the fact that people misjudge their track's difficulty, but on the other hand, rating 1* just because of this? It's cruel, dude.
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    Re: Frustrated with difficulty levels set by level makers

    Originally Posted by soad667
    i agree as i said with the fact that people misjudge their track's difficulty, but on the other hand, rating 1* just because of this? It's cruel, dude.
    I generally don't rate below 3* unless the track is horrible in every aspect.
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    Re: Frustrated with difficulty levels set by level makers

    I've seen so many tracks now that are borderline trolling, that I have to agree with curunir.

    And not only that, I've started to implement the following simple rule: there's only 1 and 5. Maybe 4, if I really liked the line, but the track looked buttugly or vice versa. And thus, sorry, mr. track creator who doesn't give a **** about the average player or the whole playerbase for that matter and who only wants to show off his leet skillz (speaking about decency), f*ing up the only measurement we have: you are an arrogant ***** and I'm not going to reward for that. Here, take 1. <- this being effectively the only method for feedback we have. Apart from this forum that is, where the Gold section seems to be frequented by about 15 people.

    and I really urge you all to be digital about your voting. I mean, look at the tracks. Look at the 4 or 5 stars in New Trials, the Weekly Highest Rated. Then, look at for instance Biohazard, Sushi Business. Compare. And then, look at what's actually possible with the editor, like this or that. Compare again. If the ratings should eventually become something to make any sense/use of, there is - currently at least - no room for "okaay, this was kinda nice-ish, here's your 3". Because, a relatively "kinda nice-ish" still: sucks.
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    Re: Frustrated with difficulty levels set by level makers

    Originally Posted by Karmacoma
    and I really urge you all to be digital about your voting.
    That's how I usually rate tracks.

    5 stars = This track deserves to be seen by more people
    1 star = I don't want to see this end up in "Highest Rated Of All Time"

    I gave that Skyrim track a 4, though. The driving line and camera angles are pretty sloppy, just sayin'
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