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    Constructive Criticism

    It's been a week since Evo Gold launched and none of the cheaters have been removed and non of the glitched scores have been dealt with. It used to be that Redlynx really cared about having legitimate leaderboards and always were on top of removing illegitimate scores. Especially during launch week I'm shocked that these issues are being ignored. whats worse is all of these issues were reported on during the beta. Redlynx I encourage you to return to your old style when the developers cared and took action. when someone reported an issue it was responded to like this:


    Originally Posted by sebbbi
    We have a tool in place that allows us to remove all cheaters very quickly. We can do the clean up tomorrow when we get back to office. Please keep reporting all cheaters here in the forums, so we can clean up the leaderboards and report the offenders to Microsoft.
    Originally Posted by sebbbi
    I will ask Jorma to check the Backyard Cup leaderboard, and delete the top score if it seems to be cheated.
    Originally Posted by sebbbi
    Originally Posted by XxTime
    Is this going to be fixed?
    Yes. We will delete all cheated scores. If all his scores are 2-3 seconds faster than the current best one, and all his top replays fail to play, it is very likely that he is a cheater. We will of course investigate first.

    We have deleted countless of cheaters from the leaderboards already, and we determined to keep the leaderboards clean in the future as well.
    Originally Posted by sebbbi
    We'll investigate the new cheater when we get back to office.

    Originally Posted by sebbbi
    Originally Posted by Euan
    Wow zephyrModv5 is 18th on classic i dont know how old it is though...

    And 47th on king of the hill
    Players mostly reported cheated scores in top 10. Seems that those two did go unnoticed. Previously we had to delete each single score separately, but now we have a system that allows us to delete all scores by a player, so we will catch all the scores by the same cheater much easier now. I'll ask Jorma to wipe out zephyrModv5 when I get back to the office.
    Originally Posted by sebbbi
    Originally Posted by jhitman
    ZeypherModz v4 has the #4 spot on King of the Hill, looks like the devs missed this one. Thought id give a head up!
    That guy is really stubborn... Jorma will be coming back to office on Monday (he is at Gamescom) and delete that record also. Thanks for reporting!
    Originally Posted by sebbbi
    We will investigate.
    Originally Posted by sebbbi
    We will investigate...
    Originally Posted by sebbbi
    Zephyrmods v5 is no longer
    Originally Posted by sebbbi
    Originally Posted by XxTime
    How about banning the Backyard Cup cheater?
    He is long gone
    Originally Posted by Jorma
    Originally Posted by emcee
    Originally Posted by Mung
    I sent him some hate mail and reported him
    That's a great way to ensure he keeps doing it, since that is what he does it for
    Reporting him is good, as it is most likely the fastest way of getting his profiles banned and limit the damage.
    Originally Posted by Jorma
    Originally Posted by MurdocLoch
    #10 on unfair bombardment - VM x ModdeRz - another modder
    Is this really a modder?
    Originally Posted by Jorma
    Hackers should be no more.
    Originally Posted by Jorma
    We will clean the leaderboards in due time when we become aware of the invalid scores.
    Originally Posted by AnttiKi
    Same guy again.
    Before I woke up, he had cheated on the "Scissors" profile (again) and deleted it. The license key has now been banned.
    Originally Posted by AnttiKi
    Diavolo99/rosilio99 has been permanently banned for cheating on the flip tracks.

    Sources:
    http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...rs-get-a-life!
    http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...rs-get-a-life!
    http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...rs-get-a-life!
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    Re: Constructive Criticism

    I completely understand what you are saying and Redlynx should be fixing this, but the truth is, most of their user base is more worried about the framerate issues and the lack of preorder bonuses. Since there are probably less than 50 people that actually care about their rank, RL may not see this as a high priority at the moment. I hope for you and all other PC speedrunners that RL fixes this soon so you can enjoy the game. Also note, the PC version is likely going to be easier to hack than the Xbox version as it isn't a closed system which sucks for legitimate players. Hopefully RL can keep to their philosophy of leaderboard integrity.
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    Well put, Murdoc. It's a shame if you ask me.
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    Re: Constructive Criticism

    I just saw this is one of those threads that Murdoch linked to.

    Originally Posted by supertom
    Originally Posted by sebbbi
    We have a tool in place that allows us to remove all cheaters very quickly. We can do the clean up tomorrow when we get back to office. Please keep reporting all cheaters here in the forums, so we can clean up the leaderboards and report the offenders to Microsoft.
    Get them Sebbi!

    To be honest, this quote is one of the reasons why I respect RedLynx so much. A lot of developers wouldn't even bat an eyelid at this stuff. But these guys are ALWAYS communicating with the fans. Which is yet another reason why I am more than happy to pay for any DLC (as long as they're tracks, haha, none of this "premium theme" crap!).
    Shame this doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
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    Re: Constructive Criticism

    Edited to be constructive: I believe Redlynx needs to start listening to the community more like they use too in hd. If we said there was a leaderboards problem it would be gone in a week.
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    I didn't play trials in that time period, but I see that trials has so many issues that redlynx doesn't bother to fix right now, forget about the leaderboards, they are not super important to the gameplay, but some people like myself can't even play on good settings without it lagging like hell on a PC that can run Crysis 2 on max setting. That's pretty ridiculous. I know they've said that they're going to fix it, but they should have done that, and fix all other glitches before the launch.

    Also I feel sorry for shifty for taking all the crap for redlynx, but I guess that it is kinda what you sign up for, when you agree on being the community manager...
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    Re: Constructive Criticism

    try to keep it constructive guys - If you agree that RedLynx needs improvement, use this thread to give feedback and constructive criticism
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    Re: Constructive Criticism

    I think the issue here is while their excuse more or less that they are too busy trying to make the game playable for the rest of their audience, they seem to being acting incredibly slowly on both fronts (leadboard fixes and general bug fixes).

    Verifying/removing cheaters from leaderboards shouldn't be a huge task for someone to take up, so just get it over with while you do your bug fixes so you can at least make some of your fans happy.

    Personally I think it was extremely irresponsible to release this game so early and label it as finished. From day1 of the beta it was obvious that this was a rushed release and I had hope but nothing improved for me with the retail release. For shame.

    But I still adore redlynx and believe everything will be fixed in time, they just need to get their priorities straight. Fixing the leaderboards shouldnt involve more than a day to fix, even if that means I have to wait longer to get smooth fps, seeing its already been a month a extra day wouldn't hurt.
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    Oh wow. Back when I was XxTime, that was a long time ago.
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    +1 for the notion.

    Competing for lb position on HD tracks is the sole reason i am getting a PC for Gold Edition (which i would have already if not for the hefty traffic ticket i had to take care of first). Hopefully when all high priorites are said and done, Redlynx will continue to maintain the integrity of the leaderboards, which they have done so since T2SE. I can understand if this will not be effective immediately but perhaps with some assuring, we can all rest a bit little easier.

    Come to think of it, i have not seen sebbbi or Jorma post in a longgg time.
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