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[rlmergeuser]

I have probably made a dozen threads about this but still. YOUR GAME IS FULL OF LAG, GLITCHES, AND ABSOLUTE RUBBISH.

What got me into this? I in fact was working on a track, which is in fact is what loads of my friends have been wanting me to do, building in Evo. I was building it in secret, not wanting people to get disappointed if i didnt release it. Well, I had it aaall nice and setup, a nice ninja driving line ready to continue from, a sweet background, and theme. I was also making some stuff with OPEs, and triggers, finally trying to get some sense out of em. oh, I saw that my mechanism isnt working, and started to work from scrap on it. I delete the final trigger left, and my game freezes, so as my whole xbox.

Then, for the good sport that i am, i actually went back on the editor, and started to work again. and it did it again. it froze my xbox and made me see red.

Redlynx, one final time: FIX YOUR MASSIVE ABOMINATION OF A GAME RIGHT NOW. If arcade games had a possibility to delete them and get a refund, I would do it right now. I would.

DONT come in here like "what? my game isnt really that glitchy"
Well HOORAY FOR YOU THEN! ive absolutely had it with this massive amounts of rubbish i encounter everyday.

Oh, im being "inappropriate" im swearing and "breaking forum rules"
oh my, im sorry. Delete me, BAN ME THEN, I seriously dont care anymore. When i post this, im just waiting for that moment when the thread gets edited, and or deleted.

Alot more people are going to leave, if you dont fix it. It WILL happen, i promise you.

Oh, what happened to the track? well i went back a third time. it was gone, as well as my other downloaded tracks. Somehow, the tracks i have shared are still there. Corruption of save files is something fresh and new, isnt it?

Thats it. I am never building in Evo. HD is way better.

6 months ago i asked Malachyte if he would get evo, and now i should be telling him not to get it. My xbox is completely busted, lag in games that never had lag before.

Sincerely,
BD

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[xPrOFeSsi0NaL]

what? my game isnt really that glitchy

[RetiredRonin]

When you post profanity you should expect your thread to get edited, or deleted, or locked.

[Chicago__AJ]

Why type of Xbox are you using? I've had absolutely 0 problems except for some freezing issues twice on my Gears Slim console. But if I try to run my game on an older elite, I can't even come close.

[H3X23]

When you post profanity you should expect your thread to get edited, or deleted, or locked.

The thing is..we see people everyday ask questions and report problems in an adult and respectful manner and they get ignored

[Oski]

My xbox is completely busted, lag in games that never had lag before.

Lets get the facts straight:
1. We fully believe what Mcdooby said. Trials Evolution crashed when he was playing multiplayer game and his Xbox hard drive content was corrupted the next time he started it.
2. Trials Evolution has some known multiplayer crash bugs that can cause console freezes. The patch will fix those bugs, but that doesn't help here.
3. We do not know exact details how the hard drive is managed by Xbox operating system. Game developers do not need to know those things, because we do not have low level access to the hard drive.
4. Trials Evolution only writes small save game files to the hard drive. It doesn't do anything out of ordinary. It's not possible that the game could directly write something to the hard drive to corrupt other things. However we do not know what exactly a console crash can do to Xbox operating system file operations (that's something only Microsoft knows).
5. Many publishers are running open betas on Xbox Live. Beta games do crash (a lot). We should check some of these popular beta game forums if there are reports of game crashes causing hard drive corruption. Maybe it's a known bug (in the operating system).
6. Windows automatically repairs the file system if the system was shut down at incorrect moment. I am pretty sure Xbox does something similar, but for some reason this system didn't work properly.

I personally feel that this was just extremely bad luck. The game crashed on a particularly bad moment while the operating system was doing something critical, or that for some reason the operating system could not repair the file system. It could be also that there was a hardware problem that was partially involved in this issue. I will report this problem to Microsoft. We are just game developers, and without proper knowledge we can only guess what when wrong.

I found reports of similar issues around the net. Somebody reported that MW3 crashed and his hard drive got broken. Sounds very similar to your story.

[rlmergeuser]

My xbox is completely busted, lag in games that never had lag before.

Lets get the facts straight:
1. We fully believe what Mcdooby said. Trials Evolution crashed when he was playing multiplayer game and his Xbox hard drive content was corrupted the next time he started it.
2. Trials Evolution has some known multiplayer crash bugs that can cause console freezes. The patch will fix those bugs, but that doesn't help here.
3. We do not know exact details how the hard drive is managed by Xbox operating system. Game developers do not need to know those things, because we do not have low level access to the hard drive.
4. Trials Evolution only writes small save game files to the hard drive. It doesn't do anything out of ordinary. It's not possible that the game could directly write something to the hard drive to corrupt other things. However we do not know what exactly a console crash can do to Xbox operating system file operations (that's something only Microsoft knows).
5. Many publishers are running open betas on Xbox Live. Beta games do crash (a lot). We should check some of these popular beta game forums if there are reports of game crashes causing hard drive corruption. Maybe it's a known bug (in the operating system).
6. Windows automatically repairs the file system if the system was shut down at incorrect moment. I am pretty sure Xbox does something similar, but for some reason this system didn't work properly.

I personally feel that this was just extremely bad luck. The game crashed on a particularly bad moment while the operating system was doing something critical, or that for some reason the operating system could not repair the file system. It could be also that there was a hardware problem that was partially involved in this issue. I will report this problem to Microsoft. We are just game developers, and without proper knowledge we can only guess what when wrong.

I found reports of similar issues around the net. Somebody reported that MW3 crashed and his hard drive got broken. Sounds very similar to your story.

ooooh, a developer post. Worship it!
Thank you oski, for showing some green colour here.

I read that, and it doesnt have an answer, but just "bad luck"
Thats not really comforting.

[rlmergeuser]

Why type of Xbox are you using? I've had absolutely 0 problems except for some freezing issues twice on my Gears Slim console. But if I try to run my game on an older elite, I can't even come close.

Come close to what?

I have an Xbox 360 Elite. Its 2 years old, works fine, except when playing trials.

[willyums]

blazin, i can only imagine how frustrating it must be for you. but how can the devs 'fix' a game when it works well enough for 99% of people?
it costs a lot of money to patch/update games and they have no way of knowing why its broken for you and not for most players.

[rlmergeuser]

blazin, i can only imagine how frustrating it must be for you. but how can the devs 'fix' a game when it works well enough for 99% of people?
it costs a lot of money to patch/update games and they have no way of knowing why its broken for you and not for most players.

Yeah. Pretty much what Willyumz said. I never experienced a freeze on the Editor. Just TC freezing when watching Replays.