Originally Posted by Monstabonza
Originally Posted by bobozilla
I really don't think You Shall Not Pass is Transitional. At LEAST lvl 1-2.
I'll check it out when I get home soon (poets day)
Basically nothing is set in stone yet. So it'll probably move.
People arnt suppose to second any track that they haven't finished at them moment.
People can add there own but not allowed to second there own track.
Thanks for the heads up.
Lol, I was basically going into this thread to say that You Shall Not Pass is not Level 1-2, it is at least level 3. But what do I know!?
I do know that You Shall Not Pass takes me hundreds of faults where W&W does not anymore.
How do you factor in obstacle length and obstacle count?
I would like to see some more debate about what truly defines the Ninja Levels. I know that Ninja Difficulty is one factor more challenging than Extreme Difficulty for each of the Ninja Levels. Is there any skill barrier between those levels? I can think of a few skills but I don't know if they are considered Ninja and where in difficulty range they fit:
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b10dq4l] Wheelie hopping - extreme - seen in Inferno 3 2nd obstacle[/*:m

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b10dq4l] Upsidedown back tire over rail - ninja 1?[/*:m

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b10dq4l] Vertically driving up - ninja 1?[/*:m

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b10dq4l] Vertically driving down - ninja 2?[/*:m

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b10dq4l] Pole swinging - ninja 2?[/*:m

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b10dq4l] Front flip back wheel push - ninja 1? - seen in Ridge Tracer 1st obstacle[/*:m

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b10dq4l] From-Air-Landing-wheelie-hop - ninja 1? - fishy business before the red pipe[/*:m

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Some of these skills I can pull off, but nowhere near the consistency to get zero-fault times on extreme levels. So I am opting for a little theory. What skills have you mastered and how do you apply them?