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[xXDonReneXx]

I'll put in a plug for a track I played called Overgrown (creator: Rishaan). I'm not the best at judging difficulty but it's probably Ninja 1 or maybe a hard transitional track. There are only two 0 fault runs so far, and even TBNSoty has 1 fault, so you know it's gotta be legit.

I uploaded a video of this track: http://youtu.be/Y0pLgfbJgSw
Is it hard enough for transitional?

Don´t know since I havent played it yet but it definitely looks fun!
Just judging by the vid I´d say the first half is regular extreme while the second half could have some harder obstacles...

[rlmergeuser]

This is definitely a tier 4 track. Here's my friend Nova Dark Storm beating it in multiplayer.

[xXDonReneXx]

@Janakos
Just gave it a try once and lost patience after ~100 faults at the second obstacle but I guess it´s safe to agree that it at least is Level 3, maybe more

As to my earlier post about Overgrown by Rishaan...
First try: 18 faults
Second try: 5 faults
Some more tries later: 0 faults with a pretty good time but a broken replay
Many more tries after that: 0 faults

If it should be in the transitional section then only because of the second to last obstacle but I´d call it a regular extreme. It´s not harder than WOTN or Inferno...

[rlmergeuser]

@Janakos
Just gave it a try once and lost patience after ~100 faults at the second obstacle but I guess it´s safe to agree that it at least is Level 3, maybe more

As to my earlier post about Overgrown by Rishaan...
First try: 18 faults
Second try: 5 faults
Some more tries later: 0 faults with a pretty good time but a broken replay
Many more tries after that: 0 faults

If it should be in the transitional section then only because of the second to last obstacle but I´d call it a regular extreme. It´s not harder than WOTN or Inferno...

Thanks heaps guys I'll move that one later today and try the others out.
Been busy at work this last week or 2 but should have time now.

[Fexelein]

I really don't think You Shall Not Pass is Transitional. At LEAST lvl 1-2.

I'll check it out when I get home soon (poets day)
Basically nothing is set in stone yet. So it'll probably move.
People arnt suppose to second any track that they haven't finished at them moment.
People can add there own but not allowed to second there own track.
Thanks for the heads up.

Lol, I was basically going into this thread to say that You Shall Not Pass is not Level 1-2, it is at least level 3. But what do I know!?
I do know that You Shall Not Pass takes me hundreds of faults where W&W does not anymore.
How do you factor in obstacle length and obstacle count?

I would like to see some more debate about what truly defines the Ninja Levels. I know that Ninja Difficulty is one factor more challenging than Extreme Difficulty for each of the Ninja Levels. Is there any skill barrier between those levels? I can think of a few skills but I don't know if they are considered Ninja and where in difficulty range they fit:
[list:2rij1ckg][*:2rij1ckg] Nose stall - extreme - seen in Wreck Barrel[/*:m:2rij1ckg]
[*:2rij1ckg] Wheelie hopping - extreme - seen in Inferno 3 2nd obstacle[/*:m:2rij1ckg]
[*:2rij1ckg] Upsidedown back tire over rail - ninja 1?[/*:m:2rij1ckg]
[*:2rij1ckg] Vertically driving up - ninja 1?[/*:m:2rij1ckg]
[*:2rij1ckg] Vertically driving down - ninja 2?[/*:m:2rij1ckg]
[*:2rij1ckg] Pole swinging - ninja 2?[/*:m:2rij1ckg]
[*:2rij1ckg] Front flip back wheel push - ninja 1? - seen in Ridge Tracer 1st obstacle[/*:m:2rij1ckg]
[*:2rij1ckg] From-Air-Landing-wheelie-hop - ninja 1? - fishy business before the red pipe[/*:m:2rij1ckg]
[*:2rij1ckg] Get-down-back wheel-latch - ninja 2? - When you make a front flip off a ledge and hook your back wheel to increase angle[/*:m:2rij1ckg][/list:u:2rij1ckg]

Some of these skills I can pull off, but nowhere near the consistency to get zero-fault times on extreme levels. So I am opting for a little theory. What skills have you mastered and how do you apply them?

[LukeMSki]

I really don't think You Shall Not Pass is Transitional. At LEAST lvl 1-2.

I'll check it out when I get home soon (poets day)
Basically nothing is set in stone yet. So it'll probably move.
People arnt suppose to second any track that they haven't finished at them moment.
People can add there own but not allowed to second there own track.
Thanks for the heads up.

Lol, I was basically going into this thread to say that You Shall Not Pass is not Level 1-2, it is at least level 3. But what do I know!?
I do know that You Shall Not Pass takes me hundreds of faults where W&W does not anymore.
How do you factor in obstacle length and obstacle count?

I would like to see some more debate about what truly defines the Ninja Levels. I know that Ninja Difficulty is one factor more challenging than Extreme Difficulty for each of the Ninja Levels. Is there any skill barrier between those levels? I can think of a few skills but I don't know if they are considered Ninja and where in difficulty range they fit:
[list:12a1beqx][*:12a1beqx] Nose stall - extreme - seen in Wreck Barrel[/*:m:12a1beqx]
[*:12a1beqx] Wheelie hopping - extreme - seen in Inferno 3 2nd obstacle[/*:m:12a1beqx]
[*:12a1beqx] Upsidedown back tire over rail - ninja 1?[/*:m:12a1beqx]
[*:12a1beqx] Vertically driving up - ninja 1?[/*:m:12a1beqx]
[*:12a1beqx] Vertically driving down - ninja 2?[/*:m:12a1beqx]
[*:12a1beqx] Pole swinging - ninja 2?[/*:m:12a1beqx]
[*:12a1beqx] Front flip back wheel push - ninja 1? - seen in Ridge Tracer 1st obstacle[/*:m:12a1beqx]
[*:12a1beqx] From-Air-Landing-wheelie-hop - ninja 1? - fishy business before the red pipe[/*:m:12a1beqx]
[*:12a1beqx] Get-down-back wheel-latch - ninja 2? - When you make a front flip off a ledge and hook your back wheel to increase angle[/*:m:12a1beqx][/list:u:12a1beqx]

Some of these skills I can pull off, but nowhere near the consistency to get zero-fault times on extreme levels. So I am opting for a little theory. What skills have you mastered and how do you apply them?

No in game obstacle is ninja. Some of the speed shortcuts are though. Ninja should be based on first pass difficulty. Also, pole swings and rail slide aren't really ninja unless used well. A good example of these type of obstacles are Spargokuroth's tracks.

[fleskeknoke]

This is definitely a tier 4 track. Here's my friend Nova Dark Storm beating it in multiplayer.

Can anyone provide more / longer videos of stuff like this? i wanted to see what the ninja difficulty was all about,
looking at this clipp of "Tough Mudder" gives me an idea though... Looks crazy

[LukeMSki]

This is definitely a tier 4 track. Here's my friend Nova Dark Storm beating it in multiplayer.

Can anyone provide more / longer videos of stuff like this? i wanted to see what the ninja difficulty was all about,
looking at this clipp of "Tough Mudder" gives me an idea though... Looks crazy

Here is TBN's run. If he can do it that easily it isn't a level 4. I would say three, but what the heck do I know since I can't pass it either way.

[DJ_2wItchY]

TBNSoty classes it as a low level 4

[fleskeknoke]

This is definitely a tier 4 track. Here's my friend Nova Dark Storm beating it in multiplayer.

Can anyone provide more / longer videos of stuff like this? i wanted to see what the ninja difficulty was all about,
looking at this clipp of "Tough Mudder" gives me an idea though... Looks crazy

Here is TBN's run. If he can do it that easily it isn't a level 4. I would say three, but what the heck do I know since I can't pass it either way.

that was impressive... thank you for posting! ...wow