Getting seriously disheartened with TC | Forums

[Morfyboy]

Great points there jarr.
+1 wot you said.

[rlmergeuser]

1 > U need to have a 24 hour feed, cant fit them in, use list instead of thumbnails.
2 > introduce sub catagorys - In new trials, introduce the beg,easy, med,hard,ext difficutlies as sub catagories, this will free up room on exisitng lists & make tracks easier to search thru.
3 > make track voting madatory, if u dont have to use it, people wont, purley out of spite if they dont like ure track(they should be made to vote as helps serperate the poop from the good
4 > make the new track listing bigger, 1 -2 hours advertised on TC after spending 3 days creating a track is a insult!!

1) A 24hr feed would be abused as much as "New" feeds are. People would upload the same track 100 times just because they can.

2) People already don't edit medal times. With a different feed for all difficulties it would be nearly impossible to find a quality medium track, which would make people building mediums shove them into the wrong difficulty. It would add even more problems.

3) Mandatory voting would end up with almost every track having 3 stars. People don't want to waste time voting. They would select the default rating almost every time.

4) Promote your tracks, use your social media and hit up @RedLynxGamer with a video (even if its from a cell phone! ) and it will usually be retweeted. With the amount of users building tracks we would need far more pages than anyone would be able to scroll through. Again, these pages would be filled by the people who upload the same track 20+ times.

We are looking into Implementing some TC changes, but I can't make any promises right now.

Dude i really appreciate you answering me and im assuming that if you looking to change some things in TC then things can only get better, still ... im gonna offer some more insight just to keep youre mind flowing

1 > If you had a 24 hour list feed, (yes as you say most peeps will not use the rating system (but some do, so the odds still work) and you had the abilty to sort via rating) then the better tracks would predomantly sit at the top of the list once uve sorted them.

2 > People are allready shoving their tracks in the wrong catagory (the ninja crisis pops to mind,thank god i dont play them ), a suggestion would be to offer the user a reason to actually play the track and use the track setup that you built (otherwise it make it a totally pointless part of the program) - a written warning during the upload procedure warning the user that their "hard worked" track will more than likley get lost(due to the rating sytem) if they do not catagorise or time it properly.

3 > If some people use the rating system properly, then the odds stack that it it will never stay on 3 stars, the rating system does actually work mate, its just that hardly anyone uses it because its mentally easier to push red than to have a productive thought process. If you add a section to the users stats that shows "his" average rating of other peoples tracks, they will think again, especially if there kids ... image ... thats their main concern! (no one give me any crap about a age-ist comment) If you make a task mandatory, people will learn to do it, if you also tell them that other people can see if their a troll or not, it think it`ll help

4 > its a good idea and i do do it on this forum and my youtube page - but thats it, sorry but i dont want to spend my whole night, sitting on my bum, joining 20 odd forums advertising a track, that in all fairness should be advertised on the very medium it is ment to be advertised on - Track central? Sorry

5 > L0RDMelchett, James24993 , Barrybarfly & Jarr3tt88 have some very good points, extra search options and a few extra screens are very easy to implement ( lol ... i assume, im not actually a code writer )

dont worry about over complicating TC, for me the editor if complicated and u can see what some genuis have done with that !!

dont you remeber the day that ure newphew/neice started to kick ure *** at lastest version of the game that u introduced them to years ago!! They`ll figure it out

The fact that ure looking into it eases me a bit, i just hope that you dont worry to much about it being over compicated!

[LukeMSki]

1) People would upload the same track 100 times just because they can.

4) Again, these pages would be filled by the people who upload the same track 20+ times.

Shifty, if uploading was LIMITED and also unable to share the same track multiple times (say max of 2 or 3 times for edits) Then it wouldn't be as filled. Abusive uploaders should be banned IMO because spamming TC is like spamming anything else.

There should be allowed for deleting obsolete tracks, would get rid of v1, v2, v2394929052

I think TC should be moderated, and uploading should be a privilege.

IMO what would be awesome is if we could hide stuff we don't want to see from TC, and then new tracks would appear. It sucks now that you have to play the crappy tracks just to give them 1* and they still wind up in highest rated.

We def need increased # of tracks viewed in all categories! I think 500-1,000 would be perfect. I don't understand why its limited to only 50. Thats such a small number. Gives more exposure. As of now its insane that youll be lucky to get 30-60 mins of exposure when you spend 30+hrs making a track.

On your spamming point, I think you should be able to flag tracks as spam. If a creator get say a certain number of spams in a certain amount of time, they can't upload for like a week. You should also not be able to flag for spam unless you complete the track. This way people don't abuse when they can't pass a hard, but well built track.

[rlmergeuser]

On your spamming point, I think you should be able to flag tracks as spam.

Can't you just report it as offensive? I mean, spam offends me, so why not

[RetiredRonin]

4 > its a good idea and i do do it on this forum and my youtube page - but thats it, sorry but i dont want to spend my whole night, sitting on my bum, joining 20 odd forums advertising a track, that in all fairness should be advertised on the very medium it is ment to be advertised on - Track central? Sorry

I'll probably catch some heat for this, but Track Central is NOT supposed to advertise your tracks for you. Put Track Central beside the Trials HD sharing system.

Track Central:
All of your tracks can be shared
Anyone w/ your GT can download your tracks
Tracks must be passable to be uploaded
Tagging system to categorize your track
Feeds with new tracks & highest rated
1-5 rating system
Offensive content can be flagged

Trials HD Track Share:
7 Tracks can be shared
Only XBL Friends can download your tracks
Impossible tracks are shared
No search options
No feeds
No rating system
No moderation

Is Track Central perfect? No, but isn't it a lot better than what was in place for sharing on Trials HD? Track Central isn't an advertising zone for Trials Evolution, it's a hub for downloading tracks. It's already too large to stumble your way through (+130,000 tracks) without having a track pointed out to you in some way.


@Jarr3tt88 - uploading to Track Central is the right of everyone who has bought Trials Evolution, not a privilege. It is your right to not play tracks that you deem bad. It would be impossible, due to volume, to moderate every track before it was allowed to be uploaded.

[willyums]

i actually have to agree with shifty here, we all want recognition for our effort but i think a lot of people were a bit naive to think that problems like these werent always going to happen with a global sharing hub and a lot of what is being said is a little on the unreasonable side. in an ideal world we'd all see our tracks getting 100,000+ downloads and 5 stars every time but it aint gonna happen.

do the best you can do in the editor, and treat anything more than some of your friends playing your track as a bonus

[CagBall]

I agree with Shifty here too. There's only one thing which I think could probably be implemented that hasn't already and that's the option to search by track name.. (?)

[emcee]

Well said shifty...kinda puts it all in perspective!

[rlmergeuser]

I'll probably catch some heat for this

Nope im gonna give u bugger all heat because you have taken the time answer and to put things into perspective ... u didnt have to!

Admitantly what u have said about the improvments are totally correct ( i think i may have posted simular in a different thread ) but its still a bit of a dissapointing fact that ive got to take in.

TC whether or not is ment to be used for advertising ... is being used in that way, (thats y we have all the spammers) If the spamming didnt exist or there were limits on how much u can upload in a day, i doubt we`d even be having this convo as the track would naturally have longer exposure. (are there any stats to see how many different users upload per day(not tracks just individual users)?

As you have said allready you are looking into changes for TC, so im more than happy to sit back and wait for them, can i ask tho, when u do, will u release it as a free patch or are you going to do an EA and make us buy it via DLC?