1. #11
    LukeMSki's Avatar Senior Member
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    Re: Getting seriously disheartened with TC

    I think the best chance we have is for all the terrible track creators will leave. Maybe in a few months, when all the COD's, Halo's and Borderlands come out we will have less people who don't really care about the game still here. Fingers crossed.
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    Re: Getting seriously disheartened with TC

    I understand what you guys are saying about 400 downloads being more than you would have got in HD, but there's still an issue here about Track Central being abused by people re-releasing identical tracks to get them more exposure.

    This underhand tactic pushes everyone else's track off the "new" list quicker, and whichever way you look at it that's not fair.
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    Re: Getting seriously disheartened with TC

    Originally Posted by JaminBen007
    I understand what you guys are saying about 400 downloads being more than you would have got in HD, but there's still an issue here about Track Central being abused by people re-releasing identical tracks to get them more exposure.

    This underhand tactic pushes everyone else's track off the "new" list quicker, and whichever way you look at it that's not fair.
    indeed its the spam that is the worst part
    that people wanna rate stair tracks 5 stars (their might be some people who truly like them )
    i can live with that but not with the spam
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    Re: Getting seriously disheartened with TC

    Originally Posted by ARMUSARAN
    Originally Posted by EuphoricFusion
    Did you guys play HD before Evo?
    I'm just wondering mainly because as there was no Track Central in HD the only way you could get your tracks played was by promoting them yourself and word of mouth.
    It seems we are a little spoilt with Evo and TC but it's not something I take for granted because of how things were done before.
    I'm happy if people on my friends list enjoy my tracks.
    If they get more downloads then it's good too but for me it's not the main thing.
    I get more satisfaction from knowing that I did the best I could and getting even one good comment is enough.
    That's just it isn't it. I feel the same way. And somehow I get this weird vibe of people that claim their track isn't getting enough or the right attention. If you have to state something like this there's always the chance you're wrong and your track got all the attention it deserved for whatever reason unknown to you. I know I am trying and rating your tracks!
    I take everything u said in to context and ure right, but i can help get annoyed when i see the same track with V1, 1.1 etc being released 3-4 time in the same hour ( its out of order and the creators know they are flooding TC .. some of these tracks are good, but for christ sakes, if they cant be asked to spend the time pre-testing before release, then they shouyldnt be allowed to upload a "remake" for at least 24 hours ..... it makes you wonder if their some kind of idiot or summin?

    Ive done it once, the first time i uploaded a track,forgot to put the times in properly but i learned after the 1st time ... they dont .. and sooner or later u go back to TC and find theve now released ver 5.1 , 6.1 etc ... it just goes on and on and on

    why can the Mods or devs have a word and ask them "do they actually have a legit reason for doing this (ie their stupid) or are they just sad A***holes.

    I wouldnt mind it if my track got d/l`d 400 times and got 1* because at least i`d have some knowledge the wider community prefers certain types of tracks (i dont make tracks for me, i like to put a challenge down and then try and beat the times of others). The prob here is that my track started well and started to get 4/5 star rating, then an hour later its gone (so i got 8 odd ratings(the other 392 either couldnt be arsed to rate or couldnt fin it) only be replaced by tracks that have no thought into building process or the same track 4 - 5 times, its gotta stop as its killing TC ... to many cooks spoilt the broth ....

    One other thing that i find really daft is that when u actually finish a track, it will ask u to rate it, the stupid thing here being that u can choose not to rate?? f you dont like the track rate it low, dont "not rate" it, totally pointless
    If people were forced to actually rate a track, more accurate readings would come thru and the S**T would get pushed out a lot quicker.

    My suggestions >

    1 > U need to have a 24 hour feed, cant fit them in, use list instead of thumbnails.
    2 > introduce sub catagorys - In new trials, introduce the beg,easy, med,hard,ext difficutlies as sub catagories, this will free up room on exisitng lists & make tracks easier to search thru.
    3 > make track voting madatory, if u dont have to use it, people wont, purley out of spite if they dont like ure track(they should be made to vote as helps serperate the poop from the good
    4 > make the new track listing bigger, 1 -2 hours advertised on TC after spending 3 days creating a track is a insult!!
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    Re: Getting seriously disheartened with TC

    Originally Posted by EuphoricFusion
    Self promotion is a must. .
    Try my shooter/platformer "Robo Shooter(Fixed)" by "apdenton1"
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    Re: Getting seriously disheartened with TC

    Originally Posted by EuphoricFusion
    Did you guys play HD before Evo?
    I'm just wondering mainly because as there was no Track Central in HD the only way you could get your tracks played was by promoting them yourself and word of mouth.
    It seems we are a little spoilt with Evo and TC but it's not something I take for granted because of how things were done before.
    I'm happy if people on my friends list enjoy my tracks.
    If they get more downloads then it's good too but for me it's not the main thing.
    I get more satisfaction from knowing that I did the best I could and getting even one good comment is enough.
    +1,000,000,000
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  7. #17

    Re: Getting seriously disheartened with TC

    Originally Posted by EuphoricFusion
    Self promotion is a must. YouTube videos are probably the most effective.
    I'd like to think so, but because there are countless user tracks out there with youtube videos, I received 190 views in over a month.
    Consider if you have a decent track you'll get a few thousand views within a day...not the best return for a youtube clip.
    I was going to upload all my tracks, but figure it would yield minimal return. It seems that because youtube is so saturated with video game clips, nobody views them.
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    Re: Getting seriously disheartened with TC

    Twitter is also a good outlet. Use #TrialsEvo as the hashtag.
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    Re: Getting seriously disheartened with TC

    Just use YouTube as the host, put the video on here and any other forums that may be appropriate.

    It helps when people are deciding which tracks they might play, there are hundreds of threads on here advertising tracks so unless I know the creator already I'm probably not gonna download them unless I've seen a video and liked it.
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    Getting seriously disheartened with TC

    Originally Posted by GreenCandy
    1 > U need to have a 24 hour feed, cant fit them in, use list instead of thumbnails.
    2 > introduce sub catagorys - In new trials, introduce the beg,easy, med,hard,ext difficutlies as sub catagories, this will free up room on exisitng lists & make tracks easier to search thru.
    3 > make track voting madatory, if u dont have to use it, people wont, purley out of spite if they dont like ure track(they should be made to vote as helps serperate the poop from the good
    4 > make the new track listing bigger, 1 -2 hours advertised on TC after spending 3 days creating a track is a insult!!
    1) A 24hr feed would be abused as much as "New" feeds are. People would upload the same track 100 times just because they can.

    2) People already don't edit medal times. With a different feed for all difficulties it would be nearly impossible to find a quality medium track, which would make people building mediums shove them into the wrong difficulty. It would add even more problems.

    3) Mandatory voting would end up with almost every track having 3 stars. People don't want to waste time voting. They would select the default rating almost every time.

    4) Promote your tracks, use your social media and hit up @RedLynxGamer with a video (even if its from a cell phone! ) and it will usually be retweeted. With the amount of users building tracks we would need far more pages than anyone would be able to scroll through. Again, these pages would be filled by the people who upload the same track 20+ times.

    We are looking into Implementing some TC changes, but I can't make any promises right now.
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