That's what I'm saying. I just don't see it being possible. I have ideas to how he cheated but an equal number of reasons to how he couldn't have and I just don't know. I'm seriously thinking of giving him the prize and also giving the guy who should have won a prize also.
I would like the code to be sent by private forum message. Thank you for taking the time to host this Sharpie, it was a fun game!Originally Posted by SharpieSniffer
Are you serious dude? That's all you have to say after that. No defending yourself of accusations, no explanation at all, no innocent comment saying you can't believe you actually guessed that. Now I'm rethinking giving you that prize mainly because I see that as a simple middle finger saying, yeah I cheated. I don't have to. I dont care if that makes me look bad. Hm, well then...Originally Posted by grimmI would like the code to be sent by private forum message. Thank you for taking the time to host this Sharpie, it was a fun game!Originally Posted by SharpieSniffer
Hmmm after sharpie saying the best guess was 24000 away, it knocks the odds down to 46-1 as that's how many entries there are.. or 92-1 less the numbers that don't have 24000 either side of them...Originally Posted by FallenultimaOne in a million chance, eh. Im not so sure
Without too much thought cause its late, a calculator and a bit of time anyone could get the odds rite down...
Weather you can get them to 1-1 is something you would have to try ....
Dam good guess either way
I have to agree that's a possibility. But it's mainly now just based on grimms comment above.Originally Posted by raistlin2076Hmmm after sharpie saying the best guess was 24000 away, it knocks the odds down to 46-1 as that's how many entries there are.. or 92-1 less the numbers that don't have 24000 either side of them...Originally Posted by FallenultimaOne in a million chance, eh. Im not so sure
Without too much thought cause its late, a calculator and a bit of time anyone could get the odds rite down...
Weather you can get them to 1-1 is something you would have to try ....
Dam good guess either way
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how could he cheat? if nobody knows but you, how is that possible? Reading minds against the rules?
He simply saw your post and did the math like raist said... lucky guess, but it was one in like 47, not 1 in a million. The chances are even better if you figure out which numbers are close together... Your little hint made it mathmatically possible to have good odds.
Howdy Sharpie. I didn't do anything unsavory and only used the information provided publicly in this post to inform my decision. My guess was indeed a guess, but I did go a little Sherlock Holmes on you.Originally Posted by SharpieSnifferAre you serious dude? That's all you have to say after that. No defending yourself of accusations, no explanation at all, no innocent comment saying you can't believe you actually guessed that. Now I'm rethinking giving you that prize. I don't have to. I dont care if that makes me look bad. Hm, well then...Originally Posted by grimmI would like the code to be sent by private forum message. Thank you for taking the time to host this Sharpie, it was a fun game!Originally Posted by SharpieSniffer
You, of your own volition, publicly posted that the closest number was off by 24,674. I took this possibly erroneous bit of information and applied it to the data set and made a plus/minus chart of all the entries, which effectively doubled the number of choices. Because of the way some of the numbers overlapped relative to the 24,674 number, I was able to eliminate them and got the list of viable possibles down to 60 or so.
I then had a jumbled mess of possibles to be sorted and so I operated under the assumption that your choice of numbers wouldn't actually be random. I scoured the list looking for anything that may be of historical significance or otherwise meaningful in some way. Of all the possibilities, two stood out with plausible date formats in the 1900's.
From here I looked at your forum name "Sharpie Sniffer" hoping to glean some insight, and assumed it was likely someone in their mid-to-late teens. Any earlier and you would not be into sniffing markers, any later and you would have moved on to proper narcotics to get your fix. This assumption happened to line up nicely with one of the two plausible date formats, the one ending in 1995. The 4 and 6 were of no interest to me but I later assumed them to be birth month and day.
It was a guess, based on a guess, based on a set of assumptions. Nothing in the rule set banned the analysis of this publicly available data or operating on assumptions. As the rules are written, the only possible way to cheat in this contest would be to change your answer after the fact, and that is something I did not do. It was a guess, a scientific wild *** guess maybe, but a guess all the same.
Hopefully this clears up the mystery. I'm totally blown away that it all came together.
As to why my first post was short, I didn't want to spend an hour-plus putting my thoughts together in a coherent way... I do not like to write if I am not going to write right.
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Originally Posted by grimmHowdy Sharpie. I didn't do anything unsavory and only used the information provided publicly in this post to inform my decision. My guess was indeed a guess, but I did go a little Sherlock Holmes on you.Originally Posted by SharpieSnifferAre you serious dude? That's all you have to say after that. No defending yourself of accusations, no explanation at all, no innocent comment saying you can't believe you actually guessed that. Now I'm rethinking giving you that prize. I don't have to. I dont care if that makes me look bad. Hm, well then...Originally Posted by grimmI would like the code to be sent by private forum message. Thank you for taking the time to host this Sharpie, it was a fun game!Originally Posted by SharpieSniffer
You, of your own volition, publicly posted that the closest number was off by 24,674. I took this possibly erroneous bit of information and applied it to the data set and made a plus/minus chart of all the entries, which effectively doubled the number of choices. Because of the way some of the numbers overlapped relative to the 24,674 number, I was able to eliminate them and got the list of viable possibles down to 60 or so.
I then had a jumbled mess of possibles to be sorted and so I operated under the assumption that your choice of numbers wouldn't actually be random. I scoured the list looking for anything that may be of historical significance or otherwise meaningful in some way. Of all the possibilities, two stood out with plausible date formats in the 1900's.
From here I looked at your forum name "Sharpie Sniffer" hoping to glean some insight, and assumed it was likely someone in their mid-to-late teens. Any earlier and you would not be into sniffing markers, any later and you would have moved on to proper narcotics to get your fix. This assumption happened to line up nicely with one of the two plausible date formats, the one ending in 1995. The 4 and 6 were of no interest to me but I later assumed them to be birth month and day.
It was a guess, based on a guess, based on a set of assumptions. Nothing in the rule set banned the analysis of this publicly available data or operating on assumptions. As the rules are written, the only possible way to cheat in this contest would be to change your answer after the fact, and that is something I did not do. It was a guess, a scientific wild *** guess maybe, but a guess all the same.
Hopefully this clears up the mystery. I'm totally blown away that it all came together.
As to why my first post was short, I didn't want to spend an hour-plus putting my thoughts together in a coherent way... I do not like to write if I am not going to write right.
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You sir, are a boss.Originally Posted by grimmHowdy Sharpie. I didn't do anything unsavory and only used the information provided publicly in this post to inform my decision. My guess was indeed a guess, but I did go a little Sherlock Holmes on you.Originally Posted by SharpieSnifferAre you serious dude? That's all you have to say after that. No defending yourself of accusations, no explanation at all, no innocent comment saying you can't believe you actually guessed that. Now I'm rethinking giving you that prize. I don't have to. I dont care if that makes me look bad. Hm, well then...Originally Posted by grimmI would like the code to be sent by private forum message. Thank you for taking the time to host this Sharpie, it was a fun game!Originally Posted by SharpieSniffer
You, of your own volition, publicly posted that the closest number was off by 24,674. I took this possibly erroneous bit of information and applied it to the data set and made a plus/minus chart of all the entries, which effectively doubled the number of choices. Because of the way some of the numbers overlapped relative to the 24,674 number, I was able to eliminate them and got the list of viable possibles down to 60 or so.
I then had a jumbled mess of possibles to be sorted and so I operated under the assumption that your choice of numbers wouldn't actually be random. I scoured the list looking for anything that may be of historical significance or otherwise meaningful in some way. Of all the possibilities, two stood out with plausible date formats in the 1900's.
From here I looked at your forum name "Sharpie Sniffer" hoping to glean some insight, and assumed it was likely someone in their mid-to-late teens. Any earlier and you would not be into sniffing markers, any later and you would have moved on to proper narcotics to get your fix. This assumption happened to line up nicely with one of the two plausible date formats, the one ending in 1995. The 4 and 6 were of no interest to me but I later assumed them to be birth month and day.
It was a guess, based on a guess, based on a set of assumptions. Nothing in the rule set banned the analysis of this publicly available data or operating on assumptions. As the rules are written, the only possible way to cheat in this contest would be to change your answer after the fact, and that is something I did not do. It was a guess, a scientific wild *** guess maybe, but a guess all the same.
Hopefully this clears up the mystery. I'm totally blown away that it all came together.
As to why my first post was short, I didn't want to spend an hour-plus putting my thoughts together in a coherent way... I do not like to write if I am not going to write right.
I knew someone would use that info. Glad it worked out for you
