Ninja Difficulty for Custom Tracks in Trials Evolution! | Forums

[RetiredRonin]

I call them "Samurai" tracks, because Samurai are cool and Ninja suck.

[jook13]

I like the idea mal. It would help me out a lot.

What I want more though, is a few secret unlockable ninja tracks. They wouldnt even have to count towards any rank or achievment or anything. Just a fun little extra for us diehards.

[xPrOFeSsi0NaL]

I say they just have a select-able difficulty called ninja.

The idea that u have to beat all extremes to create or play ninjas is dumb IMO. People can just make ninjas and call it beginner, or easy, or anything.

Just have a select-able ninja difficulty and everything is easy and ok.

[rlmergeuser]

I say they just have a select-able difficulty called ninja.

The idea that u have to beat all extremes to create or play ninjas is dumb IMO. People can just make ninjas and call it beginner, or easy, or anything.

Just have a select-able ninja difficulty and everything is easy and ok.

What sold me on the idea of having the difficulty be locked was this:

Several Ninja track makers already only share their Ninja tracks upon request and don't leave them shared because they don't want "regular players" giving them negative feedback and complaining about their "impossible" tracks.

Murdoc has mentioned to me that he will probably have to create two separate accounts to make custom tracks in Evolution - one for Ninja tracks and one for everything else, because otherwise his rating as a track-maker would be terrible from all the casual gamers who try his Ninja tracks and give them a negative rating because they can't pass the first obstacle.

Since track sharing in Evolution won't be limited to just the people on your Friend List, and there will be a track rating system as well as a creator rating system (correct me if I'm wrong), then the idea is more to prevent average players from getting their hands on Ninja tracks and giving them bad ratings than it is about preventing people from actually creating Ninja tracks.

I think what Murdoc said is absolutely right - if you had an account which contained let's say 50% Ninja tracks then you would get a terrible overall rating as a track creator because the natural reaction for an average player who tries a Ninja track and can't get past the first obstacle is "This track sucks, I'm giving it 1/5" or whatever.

Perhaps having to get Platinum on all the in-game Extremes to unlock Ninja is a bit harsh - maybe just getting all Golds or something would do... but my friend who has gotten Gold on about half the Extremes in Trials HD still can't even pass most Ninja tracks... :/

[rlmergeuser]

I voted No. I don't see the point of ninja when most people (99.9%) can't do extremes very fast!

[rlmergeuser]

I voted No. I don't see the point of ninja when most people (99.9%) can't do extremes very fast!

What's the harm in including it? I've specifically said that I'm not recommending any Ninja tracks in the game - just the option of selecting the difficulty for custom tracks. Why does it matter if 99.9% of players just ignore the option? It's not like anyone would be forced to create or play Ninja tracks if they didn't want to...

Also, you said this earlier:

If Redlynx makes Just one of the official extreme tracks a nightmare that takes the top 100 players months to platinum, then I think extreme difficulty will have the status it warrants.

You suggested adding an Extreme track which was so hard that it would take the top 100 players months to get platinum on. Top 100 is even less than 0.01%. Hell, I'm not even in the top 100 myself.

You want to add an Extreme track which is insanely difficult, has a misleading difficulty rating, and put it in the main game for everyone to play, but you don't support the idea of having the option of selecting Ninja for custom tracks because 99.9% of players wouldn't use the option?

Your idea would frustrate the hell out of 99.99% of players whereas mine would do no harm whatsoever.

[rlmergeuser]

All game designers are conscious that the average gamer will be awful at their game, yet one of the key goals that designers want to accomplish is to make the average player feel like they are really good at the game. For this reason you will never see suggestion 2 happening. And I'm doubtful you'll see ninja. To illustrate my point better, only 4 players out of over 40,000 have done BFTP very fast am the fastest player of the SLOW group), and so to say that we need a higher difficulty category is laughable

[rlmergeuser]

to say that we need a higher difficulty category is laughable

How hard is it for you to grasp the concept that I'm NOT suggesting that the game itself contains any Ninja tracks?? All I'm suggesting is that it would be nice to have the option of selecting the difficulty for custom tracks. This wouldn't force anyone to play Ninja tracks. Nothing Ninja-related would apply to anyones global rank. Methinks you're just bitter because I called you out on your terrible idea about having a "nightmare" extreme track in the game...

[RetiredRonin]

Starfire, I don't know if you understand how many people feel about "Ninja" tracks.

It's not always about the TIME you get, it's about completing it. The rush I get when I just finish a "Ninja" track is more than getting a platinum on a tournament.

Including a "Ninja" track category under User Created tracks wouldn't affect you, me, or 99.99999% of players unless they WANTED to play "Ninja" tracks.

I see absolutely NO harm in including something like this.

[rlmergeuser]

^^

I <3 U Shifty.