1. #21

    Re: Resetting Tournaments!

    I think it would be better if there were three settings; one disables resetting, one enables resetting through an option in the pause menu, and one enables resetting by using the back button. The settings would be Safe, Fast, and Dear God I Hope You Don't Accidentally Press That Button At The End Of A Zero Fault Run On The Midnight Club.
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    Re: Resetting Tournaments!

    There should just be a restart tournament option in the pause menu. Simple.
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    Resetting Tournaments!

    Originally Posted by KyoshiYozima
    There should just be a restart tournament option in the pause menu. Simple.
    Once again I find myself in agreement with Kyoshi. It's freaking me out.
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    Re: Resetting Tournaments!

    Originally Posted by ChicagoAJ
    So having to go through 5 different options to restart a tournament makes you 'earn' what rank you get if you keep playing?
    Yep. It's not a simple one button restart. On the easier tourny's it doesn't make much difference but on the higher difficulty tourny's it's frustrating to have to restart.

    AJ, have you 0 faulted Midnight Club or Nervous Breakdown? How about Big Thrills Countdown or Ultimate League? Until you've 0 faulted Midnight you can't fully comprehend what i mean by earn.

    Maybe you're such a fantastic rider that you could do it in a couple tries, then it really wouldn't matter about the 5 seconds it takes to restart, but for me, being merely an above average rider, it took me at least a week of trying to 0 fault the above tournies and two weeks for Midnight.

    So yes, i feel i "earned" those tourny's after a week of restarts, more so than if it were a one button restart, because i was dedicated enough to not get frustrated and quit cause i had to deal with the restarts.



    Originally Posted by ChicagoAJ
    You'd be earning it without all those stupid prompts as well, just because you can restart a tournament faster doesn't mean it's going to make you better at the game.
    Not the earn i was speaking of. and if you can restart it faster it's going to be easier. I don't want easy, i want a challenge. I want to feel like i accomplished something. If i wanted easy i'd go play COD with the millions of other lazy/bad kids.


    Originally Posted by ChicagoAJ
    By your reasoning they might as well add in the same questions and button prompts for tracks too, or just make you play the track all the way until the end regardless of if you want to restart because you messed up the beginning or not, that way you 'earn' those ranks too.
    I didn't say **** about tracks. We're not talking about tracks, we're talking bout tournaments.


    And before you misunderstand my words again, yes you earn what you get on tracks, but i'm sure i'm not the only one who's gotten a top ten score and been like "how'd that happen", as in i got lucky, did the whole track average with that one killer section.

    With tourny's it's a different sort of earn.

    Originally Posted by ChicagoAJ
    That's the most idiotic thing I've ever read, ever.
    Does it make more sense now? Shifty got it without me having to spell it out.


    MJ's idea seems like the best one to me.
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    Re: Resetting Tournaments!

    I totally understand what ender is saying there, but I really don't need no game menus going all bureaucrat on me, making my life ARTIFICIALLY harder than it needs to be, to make me feel I've achieved something or whatever. That's just dumb.
    I'm all for hard tournaments, but not this way.

    Originally Posted by WILLYUMZ
    ive got the best idea, why not be able to choose whether you want the feature or not?
    there could be, say, SAFE and FAST modes for resetting.

    easy
    I like WILLYUMZ' original idea ;P
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    Re: Resetting Tournaments!

    Originally Posted by Dosto
    I totally understand what ender is saying there, but I really don't need no game menus going all bureaucrat on me, making my life ARTIFICIALLY harder than it needs to be, to make me feel I've achieved something or whatever. That's just dumb.
    I'm all for hard tournaments, but not this way.

    Originally Posted by WILLYUMZ
    ive got the best idea, why not be able to choose whether you want the feature or not?
    there could be, say, SAFE and FAST modes for resetting.

    easy
    I like WILLYUMZ' original idea ;P
    Hear Hear - well said, Dosto.

    Originally Posted by ender3
    Originally Posted by ChicagoAJ
    So having to go through 5 different options to restart a tournament makes you 'earn' what rank you get if you keep playing?
    Yep. It's not a simple one button restart. On the easier tourny's it doesn't make much difference but on the higher difficulty tourny's it's frustrating to have to restart.
    You spell it yourself - it's frustrating. Thus, a FAST restart option would benefit everybody trying to go for the best result, minimizing said frustration.

    Originally Posted by ender3
    AJ, have you 0 faulted Midnight Club or Nervous Breakdown? How about Big Thrills Countdown or Ultimate League? Until you've 0 faulted Midnight you can't fully comprehend what i mean by earn.

    Maybe you're such a fantastic rider that you could do it in a couple tries, then it really wouldn't matter about the 5 seconds it takes to restart, but for me, being merely an above average rider, it took me at least a week of trying to 0 fault the above tournies and two weeks for Midnight.

    So yes, i feel i "earned" those tourny's after a week of restarts, more so than if it were a one button restart, because i was dedicated enough to not get frustrated and quit cause i had to deal with the restarts.
    I 0-faulted 'em and yet I find your reasoning flawed.


    Originally Posted by ender3
    Originally Posted by ChicagoAJ
    You'd be earning it without all those stupid prompts as well, just because you can restart a tournament faster doesn't mean it's going to make you better at the game.
    Not the earn i was speaking of. and if you can restart it faster it's going to be easier. I don't want easy, i want a challenge. I want to feel like i accomplished something. If i wanted easy i'd go play COD with the millions of other lazy/bad kids.
    That's exactly the "earn" ChicagoAJ was speaking of

    Originally Posted by ender3
    Originally Posted by ChicagoAJ
    By your reasoning they might as well add in the same questions and button prompts for tracks too, or just make you play the track all the way until the end regardless of if you want to restart because you messed up the beginning or not, that way you 'earn' those ranks too.
    I didn't say **** about tracks. We're not talking about tracks, we're talking bout tournaments.
    And yet he has a point.

    Originally Posted by ender3
    And before you misunderstand my words again, yes you earn what you get on tracks, but i'm sure i'm not the only one who's gotten a top ten score and been like "how'd that happen", as in i got lucky, did the whole track average with that one killer section.

    With tourny's it's a different sort of earn.
    Which is exactly why a FAST restart option would benefit everybody - in a tournament it doesn't really happen that you score a killer section because you drive more cautiously in the first place.
    Originally Posted by ender3
    Originally Posted by ChicagoAJ
    That's the most idiotic thing I've ever read, ever.
    Does it make more sense now? Shifty got it without me having to spell it out.


    MJ's idea seems like the best one to me.
    Sorry but I don't think it makes more sense now. See my above points.
    I ususally agree with your point of view, Ender. But not this time. Just sayin'.
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    Re: Resetting Tournaments!

    The fast reset option toggle sounds like a winner to me.
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    Re: Resetting Tournaments!

    Originally Posted by JoeRegular
    The fast reset option toggle sounds like a winner to me.
    I agree, well done WILLYUMZ for coming up with the idea!
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    Resetting Tournaments!

    Just put an option in the menu that says "restart tournament", people will still complain that they have to pause and select an option.

    People around here would ***** about getting a solid gold cat because it wasn't a dog.
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    Originally Posted by ShiftySamurai
    Just put an option in the menu that says "restart tournament", people will still complain that they have to pause and select an option.

    People around here would ***** about getting a solid gold cat because it wasn't a dog.
    Exactly, just having a restart tournament option in the menu is the happy medium.

    It's much simpler than having all of those fancy fast/safe tools and you won't have to hear about people complaining about accidently tapping the back button.

    This would be a quick enough reset to not cause unnecessary frustration and obviously safe enough to not cause any accidental resets.

    And since we're talking about tournaments, Redlynx, please make it so if you beat your time on a track in a tournament it counts towards the actual track-ingame. If I had a nickel for everytime I got a world record in a...
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