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    An app for that?

    It's been discussed time and time again about bringing a solid installment of Trials to the iPhone/iPod but I'm really not even asking for that here.

    Would it be possible to develop an app that will allow me to see my current rank in the world leaderboards (regular and +DLC)? If you guys want to throw some more goodies in there, super-duper but I'm just a big enough Trials freak that I would actually be willing to pay the $0.99 just to see where I rank now as opposed to 5 minutes ago, without having to be sitting in front of my TV.
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    Nytmair's Avatar Senior Member
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    Re: An app for that?

    I've been wanting some type of trials app for a while now.
    However, since they have said they probably won't be making an online leaderboard, I doubt they would be able to pull the leaderboard data for an app.... I'll keep my fingers crossed though that it changes some day!!
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    Re: An app for that?

    It would be interesting to install trials on the iphone. Likewise, you can possibly develop an application for it. From there you are able to see your rank with the leaderboards on the application.
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    Re: An app for that?

    I would love to have a response from the developers on this.

    An iphone (and why not also android) app that shows leaderboards would be great, if it also could show replays it would be totally awesome!

    please?!
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    Re: An app for that?

    Originally Posted by Ishra
    I would love to have a response from the developers on this.

    An iphone (and why not also android) app that shows leaderboards would be great, if it also could show replays it would be totally awesome!

    please?!
    The replay system just records your button presses. To simulate the button presses you need to run the game physics engine, and to have all the 3d physics models (of all tracks) loaded to your phone's memory. To render the replay graphics, you would need to have the full graphics engine of the game running on your phone, and to have all the 3d graphics models (of all game tracks) loaded to phone's memory. Basically if we had the replay viewer that could show a fully accurate replay based on your button presses, we could just allow you to input the button presses yourself on the phone and play the full game. The first problem is... there's no phone currently that even had enough memory to load all the Trials HD graphics & physics models to it... the second is, no phone is powerful enough to run Trials HD using exactly the same physics quality (a requirement for the replay system to work properly)... and third, no phone can access the Xbox Live leaderboards directly (except for the Microsoft Windows Phone).

    It's technically possible to get high score data (not replays) from the leaderboards to a web server (some retail games have done this), so we could theoretically show some leaderboard data in our website, and have app to download that to a phone. However I don't think we could make specific real time queries for your personal data. Something like top 100 global ranking lists at our website is likely technically possible, but I don't think we would be able release a title update just for that. It's however a nice idea to keep in mind for our future projects.
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    Re: An app for that?

    Thanks for the incredible description! I never would have guessed that the replay system worked that way. I always thought the button presses diagrams were just a wonderful feature. Very cool and very helpful. Thanks sebbbi!
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    Re: An app for that?

    Originally Posted by sebbbi
    The replay system just records your button presses. To simulate the button presses you need to run the game physics engine, and to have all the 3d physics models (of all tracks) loaded to your phone's memory. To render the replay graphics, you would need to have the full graphics engine of the game running on your phone, and to have all the 3d graphics models (of all game tracks) loaded to phone's memory. Basically if we had the replay viewer that could show a fully accurate replay based on your button presses, we could just allow you to input the button presses yourself on the phone and play the full game. The first problem is... there's no phone currently that even had enough memory to load all the Trials HD graphics & physics models to it... the second is, no phone is powerful enough to run Trials HD using exactly the same physics quality (a requirement for the replay system to work properly)... and third, no phone can access the Xbox Live leaderboards directly (except for the Microsoft Windows Phone).

    It's technically possible to get high score data (not replays) from the leaderboards to a web server (some retail games have done this), so we could theoretically show some leaderboard data in our website, and have app to download that to a phone. However I don't think we could make specific real time queries for your personal data. Something like top 100 global ranking lists at our website is likely technically possible, but I don't think we would be able release a title update just for that. It's however a nice idea to keep in mind for our future projects.
    Thanks for the answer.

    I kinda figured that the replay system worked that way, but that in no way makes it impossible
    The replays could in theory be generated on your servers and then streamed, this would however require quite a lot of CPU, but doesn't have to use so much CPU as you would think, most people would probably only/mostly look at the top scores, that fact combined with a cache system for the generated replays, each replay only have to be generated once when first viewed.

    I also understand the potential difficulties doing this for Trials HD, but if one plans for features like this for Trials HD 2 it could absolute be done without having to load the game into every little device that wants to watch replays.

    I'm assuming here that Trials HD 2 is the name of the next game, right?

    But for now, I would be really happy for a online leader board, as a normal webpage or an mobile app.
    Since I understand that there will be no more expansions to Trials HD i'm dying for more content or something related

    I'm also curious why you cant query personal data? Is there a limitation from MS on this?
    I you could query all data for a track, you could find personal positions for a specific track without having to query specificity for a user.
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    Re: An app for that?

    Originally Posted by sebbbi
    ... and third, no phone can access the Xbox Live leaderboards directly (except for the Microsoft Windows Phone).

    It's technically possible to get high score data (not replays) from the leaderboards to a web server (some retail games have done this), so we could theoretically show some leaderboard data in our website, and have app to download that to a phone. However I don't think we could make specific real time queries for your personal data. Something like top 100 global ranking lists at our website is likely technically possible, but I don't think we would be able release a title update just for that. It's however a nice idea to keep in mind for our future projects.

    Sorry, I don't think this is true, at least not any more. A MS partner/developer should be able to get programatic access to in-game information through "XBoxLive RESTful web services". It specifically mentions user/profile information, leaderboard info, matchmaking/multiplayer, and even "title managed storage" (which I can only assume would include track-specific leaderboards).

    Yes, it was originally designed so they could design Windows Phone companion games, but doesn't look like it is restricted to that use (a web service can be accessed by nearly anything).

    Download the powerpoint here: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en....aspx?id=28035

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