I've gone part-way through Diablo a couple of times, and stopped after maybe 20-30 minutes of attempting one particular obstacle. First it was the vertical wall with the two fences after it, then it was the boulders. So I thought I'd give it another go tonight. With copious use of Lestropie and QcChopper's youtube videos I eventually made it past those damn rocks and started on the rest. Fault after fault after fault, but making slow but steady progress through each part, I had one eye on the clock. It was past 56 minutes and I was starting to get worriedwasn't looking ahead in the videos so didn't know how how much of the track was left). I drop down, hop over a little barrel ("this must be a trick...") and smack my head on the plank ("ahh, that's the trick"). Drop down again, over the barrel, full speed ahead up the ramp, and I jump...
...never to land. There was a pause, and for an instant I thought "oh wow, it's loading some kind of cutscene to tell me how awesome I am". Instead just a mid-air freeze frame of my long-suffering rider, battered and bruised, leaping eternally into the unknown. Slowly, with heavy heart, realisation dawned; for the first time ever, Trials had crashed on me. Deflated, I check the videos and realise that it was the last bit of the track.
380-ish faults and 58 minutes, I finally had a place on the Diablo leaderboard. No more. Trials is a cruel mistress.
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Oh Man! Finishing Diablo is such an achievement I can't believe it crashed at that point
Here's a positive word of advice though: Next time you try it I bet you'll do it with 100-200 less faults. A few times I've spent a couple of hours working on one jump then as soon as I've made it I hit R by mistake... but I found it only takes a few minutes to do it again. Trials is nice like that
Don't give up, you'll shoot up the leaderboard when you finish that track.
<_< Oooh, I see you're from the UK... ok, definitely don't give up... we need more good players to boost us up the leaderboards
BTW, here are a few more videos of Diablo on youtube:
If you watch that last one you'll see there is still a trick to the final jump... what you need to do is be going full speed in the leaning back position then hold forward as soon as you are on the first part of the ramp. (feels weird to do but it works)
Don't worry, I'll be back.
I know you're right about the faults diminishing, but I'm still not confident about the boulders. Despite taking maybe 60 attempts, it still felt like a fluke when I finally made it. Lestropie's video was useful here; he basically does the top section using only the rear wheel and forward lean. QcChopper leans right back at one point, which I tried to reproduce and never even came close.
Thanks for the videos, I'll use them in preparation for another attempt later. I mentioned in the thread in the videos forum that I'd finally completed Inferno, and since then I've done it with 3 faults (the progression was something like 300-80-40-3). Great, the problem is that this was a fluke; I still take 20-30 attempts with the 3 planks and just got lucky, then got lucky again and no-faulted the rest
And isn't it only the top 10 riders in a country that contribute to the rankings? Unless I move to Burundi or something I don't think I'll be involved in that anytime soon.
BTW: if there's a "trick" to the last jump in Diablo then it's quite possible I may not have made it across the line in the time limit. That makes me feel slightly better...
lol now that was some nice story..
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Yeah it's only the top 10 that contribute to the rank, but you can get in the top 10 if you stick with itSince you've nofaulted all but the ultra hard tracks, you're definitely good enough
I've been playing Diablo nonstop for the last 3-4 weeks, if it helps I could talk you through my way of doing the boulders (and you're right they are really hard until you get a nice technique down):
I pause with my back wheel on the 2nd boulder and my front wheel on the 3rd boulder... there are points sticking out of each of the boulders, I try to tap accelerate so that I have almost no speed in any direction while my tires are just above the points, then I let the bike fall so that my tires are directly ontop of the points, then I hold accelerate -- as I shoot up I tap forward just as my back tire touches the 3rd boulder... the aim is to land almost steady on the last two boulders with my back tire near the back of the 2nd last one. as I'm about to land I may tap forward so that my back tire doesn't go too far forward, then I'll let the bike roll just a touch so that my back tire is has a bit of space (but not too far or you'll fall down again) then I just hold accelerate and as my back tire hits the top boulder I lean back to get more grip. Works almost every time.
If you start falling down the boulders you can usually just hold foward and not touch anything else and you can coast down to the bottom without a fault.
Good luck.
EDIT: YAY! Just noticed you've done it! Well done. And see how your rank jumped up like a 100 places
Filled with confidence I immediately restarted to do a better run... and got stuck on the boulders! I was trying to use the "rest point" between boulders 2 and 3, except tight against them rather than on the edges the way you describe. Then just nudge back and quickly accelerate upwards using the back wheel like Lestropie. Didn't work obviously, but sometimes you need to take a step back to take two forward.
Great description thanks, that's next on my to-do list. Hopefully it's as helpful as your Inferno technique was.
My first (successful) run on Diablo was 56 minutes, 480 faults, and I was stuck on every obstacle for at least 5 minutes. So don't worry, you'll get there. I've done about 10 runs since then, and I'm down to 14 minutes and 36 faults. Every time I do it, it gets easier.
Godmil's right about the rocks. You can watch my replay in the weeklies (23rd, currently), and if you can stand to wait 5 minutes until I get to the rocks, you will see how they can be done the slow way. And I do them quite, quite slow. Heck, I even do them more than once. On second thought, watch someone else's replay because, frankly, I don't want anyone to see how slowly I do this
I find watching the non-leaders run a very difficult track to be more informative than watching the best guys do them. You're never going to do what the leaders do if you haven't run the track 100 times or more, so watch the lower ranked players stumble through them for some realistic expectations and techniques that are more reliable and less risky.
I bet your first successful run will be less than 40 minutes, and 100 faults less. So try, try again, and good luck.
[Edit: nevermind, you already beat it, 107 faults, 28 minutes, nice work]
[Edit: Okay 70 faults, 16 minutes, slow down or you're going to beat my run]
I don't have the patience to watch my own replays for 5 minutes to see how I did it, never mind someone elses! Actually I may just watch it out of spite.Originally Posted by FaceStabOn second thought, watch someone else's replay because, frankly, I don't want anyone to see how slowly I do this
Totally agree with this, I tend to look at the weekly scores and find someone a few seconds ahead of me to see where I can improve. I did do a good run of Maze (by my standards - 120th) having learnt a lot from Thukanani's run (15th) though. I was 500-ish before that.Originally Posted by FaceStab
You can relax for a while, I've now forgotten how to do the wall and fences jump near the start! I hate it when that happens, it's like the Simpsons: "every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain". Pffft.Originally Posted by FaceStab
My first completed Diablo run was 20 minutes and with the help of that frustration I created the initial version of YSNP the same evening
So YSNP is officially the product of a level designer in a very bad mood. That figures!
