1. #31

    Re: The Midnight Club Guide (How to 0 Fault Extreme Courses)

    Mike, I tried the method you use in Diabolic (8th Checkpoint - The three suspended ramps leading upward).

    I feel that you've oversimplified it a bit, as there's no way you're just leaning forward to get past this checkpoint. However, you've definitely given me a way of improving. I was going a bit nuts with the left stick, but now I see it's a bit simpler than that.

    Thanks.

    ben1bob: I'll try your method tonight.
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  2. #32

    Re: The Midnight Club Guide (How to 0 Fault Extreme Courses)

    Originally Posted by NfskMjmMal
    Great job, as usual.

    You might want to clearly state that the Sixth Checkpoint (skipping the seventh checkpoint) is taking the shortcut route, and that the description of the seventh checkpoint is if you take the "correct" way. I could see it being a little confusing for people who aren't quite sure of what you're talking about.

    And I think you made a typo on the fifth checkpoint:

    Technique: Do a massive bunny hop and have your back wall hit the barrier in your way first.
    Isn't that supposed to be "...and have you back wheel hit the barrier..."?
    Alright, I'll take note of the short-cut thing. And yea..that's supposed to be "back wheel" haha, thanks.

    And Berica and ben1bob,

    I'm sorry that my method isn't working, but I don't feel that I've oversimplified it. I'm thinking I haven't quite explained something properly. I honestly do not hit left at all until on top of the third suspended plank object. I only hit right before then. It's definitely possible though that for some reason some people can't quite get that method down. I'll look at it again today and see if there is something I can mention to make it easier. However, the spring jumping method is definitely another option that you can try to take down this obstacle.
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  3. #33

    Re: The Midnight Club Guide (How to 0 Fault Extreme Courses)

    great guide for groundhog forever - turns out i was having problems with the 'skip checkpoint 7' bit because i was doing it very wrong.

    anyway, as usual here's what i do differently:

    watching my replay will explain the things below much better than i do, so have a look at that if your not sure what i mean. as usual its a non special platinum run, probably around 250th, but dont quote me on that

    checkpoint 1: i find the landing easier if i have the power on, the bike at about 45-60 degrees, the biker leaning back, and as i'm just about to land, throw him forwards.
    its not as quick, but i find it means i need a little less distance on the jump

    checkpoint 3: just a little note here, i normally start a little further back, and aim to wheelie across the platform, but whatever floats your boat.
    also, if you know your going to hit the landing ramp, then i usually hit it perpendicular to it, and with the brakes on, that way you dont get stuck so much

    checkpoint 4: even smaller note than last time - at the top of the wooden platform holding the brake and leaning forwards seems to stop me from getting the back wheel under the platform (you need to lean untill the biker is at about 45 degrees, otherwise when you take the brake off the back wheel will be off the edge)

    checkpoint 8:
    when on the metal plate, i have the rider as far back as possible and holding lean back. i simply do full gas straight off, and just before i hit the wall, lean forwards again.
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  4. #34

    Re: The Midnight Club Guide (How to 0 Fault Extreme Courses)

    Originally Posted by HoorayItsMike
    And Berica and ben1bob,

    I'm sorry that my method isn't working, but I don't feel that I've oversimplified it. I'm thinking I haven't quite explained something properly. I honestly do not hit left at all until on top of the third suspended plank object. I only hit right before then. It's definitely possible though that for some reason some people can't quite get that method down. I'll look at it again today and see if there is something I can mention to make it easier. However, the spring jumping method is definitely another option that you can try to take down this obstacle.
    Huh, what do you know... I guess it was just a matter of timing. I did it your way just minutes ago and it worked flawlessly! I can now see why you rated this obstacle 5/10 instead of the 9/10 I would've originally given it.

    I brought my faults on this course down from 5 to 3, and more importantly, knocked around 30 seconds off (my new time is 2:08 - platinum is 2:20... so I just have to knock the faults off and I'm there).

    Thanks again... I shouldn't have doubted someone so much higher than me in the rankings.
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  5. #35

    Re: The Midnight Club Guide (How to 0 Fault Extreme Courses)

    Originally Posted by Berica

    Huh, what do you know... I guess it was just a matter of timing. I did it your way just minutes ago and it worked flawlessly! I can now see why you rated this obstacle 5/10 instead of the 9/10 I would've originally given it.

    I brought my faults on this course down from 5 to 3, and more importantly, knocked around 30 seconds off (my new time is 2:08 - platinum is 2:20... so I just have to knock the faults off and I'm there).

    Thanks again... I shouldn't have doubted someone so much higher than me in the rankings.
    Hah well I'm glad you figured it out. But trust me, it doesn't matter what ranking we are in the leaderboards, we all make mistakes sometimes, so don't be afraid to question me when you think I messed up on something.

    On another note, I haven't edited anything in Groundhog Forever yet, I've been really busy with scholarship stuff. Hopefully tonight or tomorrow I can edit everything that you guys suggested and also get Brown Boxes done.
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  6. #36

    Re: The Midnight Club Guide (How to 0 Fault Extreme Courses)

    Excellent guide dude, very useful!
    I have to disagree with the difficulty ratings of some of your techniques, but I suppose different for everyone!
    The techniques mentioned are spot on! I have read 1 or 2 twice as I didn't get what you mean at first, but they are (as I said) spot on!!!

    Thanks again and I think I'll be getting that Platinum soon!
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  7. #37

    Re: The Midnight Club Guide (How to 0 Fault Extreme Courses)

    Originally Posted by Jonofthejungle
    Excellent guide dude, very useful!
    I have to disagree with the difficulty ratings of some of your techniques, but I suppose different for everyone!
    The techniques mentioned are spot on! I have read 1 or 2 twice as I didn't get what you mean at first, but they are (as I said) spot on!!!

    Thanks again and I think I'll be getting that Platinum soon!
    Ahah good luck! I try to base the difficulty off of how much practice it takes to get consistent at, but I'm sure it's different for everyone, especially since we're all better at different things and probably all think different when approaching an obstacle.

    EDIT: I made some edits on Groundhog Forever. I'll do Brown Boxes tomorrow. Keep the comments, questions, and ideas coming. Oh, and I also added a recovery to Inferno II. I read somebody post something somewhere about it so I decided to try it out to see if I could do it. It's actually one of the most important recoveries in the game because it's so easy to over shoot that wooden platform after doing the pipes.

    EDIT 2: Brown Boxes is complete.

    EDIT 3: FINALLY DONE!! Very happy about that. However, I had to delete some things to make it under the 60,000 character limit. The FAQ section has been eliminated and the description of each course is now gone. I changed a few other small things around both those were the 2 major things. Next step: getting a capture card and making a video of each of these courses to have a visual aide.
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  8. #38

    Re: The Midnight Club Guide (How to 0 Fault Extreme Courses)

    Originally Posted by HoorayItsMike
    7th Checkpoint - The Pipes
    Someone on this board can't find it anywhere, but I know I read it) mentioned that they straddle the first pipe and then hop over the rest.

    I think you should add this to your guide. I started playing around with it, and I have YET TO MISS IT! For me to not miss something on an extreme course, even once, should speak to how simple it is. For me, it has transformed this obstacle from "I hope I get by it without faulting" to "I wonder how fast I can get by it."
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  9. #39

    Re: The Midnight Club Guide (How to 0 Fault Extreme Courses)

    Originally Posted by Berica
    Originally Posted by HoorayItsMike
    7th Checkpoint - The Pipes
    Someone on this board can't find it anywhere, but I know I read it) mentioned that they straddle the first pipe and then hop over the rest.

    I think you should add this to your guide. I started playing around with it, and I have YET TO MISS IT! For me to not miss something on an extreme course, even once, should speak to how simple it is. For me, it has transformed this obstacle from "I hope I get by it without faulting" to "I wonder how fast I can get by it."
    I added it, although I really do find it surprising that so many people are so consistent with it. You have to do a big bunny hop off of the first pipe to be able to make it to the second one and onto the rest. However, if you do make the first jump, then the rest is pretty easy to beat.
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  10. #40

    Re: The Midnight Club Guide (How to 0 Fault Extreme Courses)

    Originally Posted by HoorayItsMike
    I added it, although I really do find it surprising that so many people are so consistent with it. You have to do a big bunny hop off of the first pipe to be able to make it to the second one and onto the rest. However, if you do make the first jump, then the rest is pretty easy to beat.
    Hmmm... you must be doing it wrong. I don't bunny hop at all. I straddle the first pipe, lean back, throttle, and just seem to fly over the rest... and it's not just a fluke. I've done it this way at least 10 times now. I daresay that for an extreme course, this obstacle has now moved into the Stupid-Easy domain.

    Go back and try it again. Don't bunny hop - just lean.

    EDIT: Okay, here I am a couple hours later, and it's not working. I don't get it. If I just lean back, I get caught on the second pipe. I still make it over pretty fast, bu definitely not as easily as I originally described.
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