Different Types of "Skill" | Forums

[rlmergeuser]

the one thing i would say is that repetition does not give skill, it gives technique for that level, but applying the correct learnt techniques to new situations would be skill

Wow so I guess we could tell all athletes, racedrivers, hockeyplayers, poolplayers, guitarplayers pretty much every sport there is to quit practicing (do repetition) since they cant improve their skill.

Have you ever heard of the saying Practice makes perfect?

It seems to me that you are talking about talent not skill, and even if you have talent it just mean you have an edge or advantage over the "normal" person.

[rlmergeuser]

i havent read the whole thread (reading lestropie's post kinda took too much time), but i would say someone is skilled at the game if they could consistantly get over many extreme obsticles that they have never seen before with few faults.

however, i know theres more holes in that than swiss cheese, but its the best i can come up with when i've got parents shouting at me to do god knows what.

the one thing i would say is that repetition does not give skill, it gives technique for that level, but applying the correct learnt techniques to new situations would be skill

By the way, the answer to your signature is Testicles.

yep, i know. i'm so mature arent i.

also, your probably right whoever said it, i'm more describing talent than skill

[rlmergeuser]

i havent read the whole thread (reading lestropie's post kinda took too much time), but i would say someone is skilled at the game if they could consistantly get over many extreme obsticles that they have never seen before with few faults.

however, i know theres more holes in that than swiss cheese, but its the best i can come up with when i've got parents shouting at me to do god knows what.

the one thing i would say is that repetition does not give skill, it gives technique for that level, but applying the correct learnt techniques to new situations would be skill

Umm...no. If we are talking purely about Trials here then repetition is the ONLY way to build up your skills. The way the game is designed (the quick restarts after faulting) encourages repetition. I think I can safely speak for alot of the guys with top times that they didn't get them just because they were "skilled" but because they constantly did the track or tournament over and over and over again. Repetition is also pretty much the key to developing skill in anything else.

Speaking for myself all my top times have just come through grinding them out for hours at a time. I just hit #7 on Greatest Hits and that was after about 3 days, approx 3-4 hours at a time. In all that time I only finished one run. The one that counted. I wouldn't call that a lack of skill cos I wasn't consistent. All that time was spent getting better at the track and always trying to make the run flow, so I could finally pull it all together. It was a pretty slack first half of the track so I am still a little disapointed and still have some work to do which will prob require even more hours as now it just comes down to the fine tuning. Thats the great thing about this game though. You can ALWAYS do better.

[rlmergeuser]

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skill and talent are two diffrent things

[rlmergeuser]

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skill and talent are two diffrent things

So we are going to have one of these splitting hairs arguments are we? They go together and that wasn't what I was getting at with my post anyway.

[ben1bob]

looks like HoorayItsMike was right about this thread becoming very opionated!

[rlmergeuser]

looks like HoorayItsMike was right about this thread becoming very opionated!

Nah Im not trying to be, its just when someone has clearly not comprehended what I have written and throws a one line response at me which like I said is "splitting hairs" I just needed to point that out to him. I know "skill" and "talent" and other related words are going to have slight variations in how people view them.

Maybe I should have added a

[rlmergeuser]

skill is something you learn, talent is something your born with
people have diffrent levels at both

talented people will most likely be able to increase thier skill faster than people with less talent, this applies to all facets of life


and dude, this is an open forum, dont dictate how people should respond to your posts, and i nevert said you was wrong, infact, my response was not directed at anybody, im just adding my opinion.

[rlmergeuser]

skill is something you learn, talent is something your born with
people have diffrent levels at both

talented people will most likely be able to increase thier skill faster than people with less talent, this applies to all facets of life


and dude, this is an open forum, dont dictate how people should respond to your posts, and i nevert said you was wrong, infact, my response was not directed at anybody, im just adding my opinion.

I seen the ^^ and thought it was directed at my post. I only responded to it cos it really didn't have much to do with what I was saying.

I wasn't trying to be an *** mate so sorry if I came across that way. Like I said in my post above I realise people will see the definitions of all these skill related terms a little differently.

[HoorayItsMike]

I have to agree with what Reaper said about practice, but he just didn't explain it in the correct way.

Repetition on one course gets you very good at exactly what you have to do on that course at each obstacle. There are different reasons that you may become better. Everything from learning how to control your bike better or learning how to do complex obstacles or just gaining muscle memory for that specific course.

Now, after someone finally achieves their goal on that course, then they move on to the next one. If you are able to apply techniques that you learned to the new course and achieve your goal more quickly (as long as the courses are considered to be of equal difficulty) then I would say that your repetition has granted you skill. If you are unable to apply your new techniques that you have practiced on the other courses, then you have not increased your overall skill. You have gained skill only on one course's obstacles due to muscle memory or something like that as opposed to the game in general. However, it's almost impossible NOT to apply some technique that you learned through repetition even if that repetition was only on one course. So, for 99.99% of us, repetition on one course = overall increase in skill. But, it's POSSIBLE that it may not. Just very unlikely.

I believe that that's what Reaper was trying to say. He just did a one sentence explanation and it sounded differently than he meant it to.