Combat System Recycled AGAIN? | Forums

[Wolfmeister1010]

This thread is not meant to be part of the "leaks" and "thoughts on what ACV will be about and where" and stuff so it does not need to be part of that thread Mr. shade made. So, let's keep it away from THAT topic.

It seems that the Sam Fey stuff was false. We could be getting a game that takes place in London/Paris in the same time..but Sam Fey as a character likely doesn't exist. And that means that the rest of the press release, like the parts about revamped combat and stealth, might also be fake.

The Brotherhood-Revelations combat system lasted two games, and so did the most recent AC3-4 system. Maybe they will actually change some of the mechanics up again. Maybe they will add crouching and such, and change up the entire combat system. That is what I hope. But, what if the next game "unity" (and its last gen counterpart codenamed "comet" feature the same combat system?

Just want to know, how would you guys react if they made a new game that was basically AC4 was to AC3, in the sense that their are all new features, mechanics, and location, ect, but the combat system stays the same at heart (other than a few little tweaks)?

AC4 was a fantastic game, but I am sure we all agree that they can no longer just throw in new features to distract us from the same old same old core gameplay mechanics. Would you be okay if they did the same thing with the next game? Giving us the same combat system but distracting us with next gen exclusive graphics and cool new features?

Or will you be mad, thinking that the core gameplay and combat should have been changed, and that they can no linger try to distract us from it?

I can not think of any reason why they would keep the same combat system...I mean..they see all of our complaints since AC3, and they would surely not be stupid enough to give us the same combat system AGAIN after two games..for a total of 5 games (unity, comet, and liberation) with the same combat system. At least I seriously hope. But, what if they did let us down like that? How would you feel?

[LoyalACFan]

I'd be fine with it if they returned to a carbon copy of AC3 combat to be honest, AC4 combat was lame in comparison. All they need to work on is the AI, and make it so that it's actually challenging to keep up a kill streak with enemies constantly attacking you and whatnot.

[ACLexter]

I want a better, more realistic combat system especially melee (any type of swords)
I mean, when attacking your enemies and performing a multiple slash, only your swords collide with the swords of your enemies not with any parts of their body. if you manage to slash their body, their either died or just badly wounded.

think about when slashing your enemies in AC4 like 4-5 slash in their body and then you switch your target, they still look okay and your slashes and stabs are nothing.

[luckyto]

I'd be fine with it if they returned to a carbon copy of AC3 combat to be honest, AC4 combat was lame in comparison. All they need to work on is the AI, and make it so that it's actually challenging to keep up a kill streak with enemies constantly attacking you and whatnot.

I feel the exact same.

I even go farther and say that one of the biggest problems with AC combat is that they keep changing it --- instead of refining it. AC3 was a brilliant and fun system that needed minor tweaking to make it challenging, progressive and deep. But somehow, they screwed it up. AC1 was a brilliant system that needed minor tweaking to make it more challenging, and they screwed it up. ACB was a fun system that was way way too easy, and needed serious tweaking to make it more challenging.

But in SIX games they've had THREE good foundations. With fine-tuning, they could be GREAT systems. Just take AC3 combat and fix it.

Combat needs work, but it's not nearly as desperate for help as the AI. The AI for Assassin's Creed is in serious trouble. It has been for ages, and with each title, it just gets worse. Black Flag is - hands down - the worst AI in any Assassin's Creed game. There needs to be a huge amount of depth added to the enemy actions/reactions/movements. Improving AI would be the best thing for stealth, it would be the best thing for improved combat and the best thing to make the world more immersive. At this point, the game is falling apart because of the AI.

[Farlander1991]

But in SIX games they've had THREE good foundations.

Two. ACB wasn't a different foundation. It was the AC1/AC2 foundation with a slapped on move for group combat and the result was just horrible.

[Be1dou]

I would be fine as long as it's an improvement over AC:3's combat and not like AC:IV's. Perhaps a mix between Liberation HD and 3.

[Kirokill]

I never had a problem with AC1 combat system, I enjoyed the one hour trying to unmask the fake guard leader (the spared woman).
I hate this glitchy combat system in AC4, honestly if glitchy = more challenging for them it is, just, I don't know how to even say it. AC3 combat was better than AC4, but still wasn't good. It does make you fight, and no need to run, that is not what an assassin should do.

[Dome500]

I would probably be a little bit let down. But since I do not EXPECT them to necessarily change combat it would not be a huge disappointment (since I can only be disappointed in things I did NOT expect).

I see a lot of improvement potential for combat..

[LoyalACFan]

I feel the exact same.

I even go farther and say that one of the biggest problems with AC combat is that they keep changing it --- instead of refining it. AC3 was a brilliant and fun system that needed minor tweaking to make it challenging, progressive and deep. But somehow, they screwed it up. AC1 was a brilliant system that needed minor tweaking to make it more challenging, and they screwed it up. ACB was a fun system that was way way too easy, and needed serious tweaking to make it more challenging.

But in SIX games they've had THREE good foundations. With fine-tuning, they could be GREAT systems. Just take AC3 combat and fix it.

Combat needs work, but it's not nearly as desperate for help as the AI. The AI for Assassin's Creed is in serious trouble. It has been for ages, and with each title, it just gets worse. Black Flag is - hands down - the worst AI in any Assassin's Creed game. There needs to be a huge amount of depth added to the enemy actions/reactions/movements. Improving AI would be the best thing for stealth, it would be the best thing for improved combat and the best thing to make the world more immersive. At this point, the game is falling apart because of the AI.

This. We need evolution, not revolution.

[Dome500]

This. We need evolution, not revolution.

No one ever said they should change it completely.
But it needs LOTS of improvement.