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    shikamaru-'s Avatar Senior Member
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    Rocksmith 2014 Hard Score Attack Breakdown

    Okay guys, I think this will not only be helpful for the challenge NSmith is organizing here, it will also help a lot of you know how hard songs are relative to each other so you can focus on specific songs where you think you’ll stand a better chance of passing the songs.

    Note that this breakdown does not target FC, or even gold picks, just bronze so a song can be ranked higher than another if it’s higher to pass (multiple tricky sections vs a song with a wtf section, but only one block)

    The process is simple: in a single post you can move a song a single spot up or a single spot down, so you only need to ask yourself this question: is this song harder than what’s above it, or is it easier than what’s below it.

    Here is a start list, I’ll keep the list updated. The first list is based on several posts from community members.

    One other note: don’t move a song unless you know what you’re talking about. For instance, I can’t decide if satch boogie is harder than bat country, because I haven’t passed neither of these, and haven’t spent significant time trying to get them. Try to give reasonable arguments, ie “Black Magic is harder than Blitzkrieg Bop because it only has one single chord shape throughout the song”

    [EDIT]If you’re looking for an estimation of every song the game has to offer, check this thread: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...Tiers-with-DLC, this one is more intended as a guide for starting the game.


    Lead Rhythm Bass
    Tier 0 (Very Easy songs)
    1 ) Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop 1 ) Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop 1 ) Magic Wands - Black Magic
    2 ) Magic Wands - Black Magic 2 ) Magic Wands - Black Magic 2 ) Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop
    3 ) Gold Motel - Brand New Kind Of Blue 3 ) Gold Motel - Brand New Kind Of Blue 3 ) La Sera - Love That’s Gone
    4 ) R.E.M. - Losing My Religion 4 ) The Who - My Generation 4 ) Def Leppard - Pour Some Sugar On Me (2012
    5 ) The Who - My Generation 5 ) PAWS - Sore Tummy 5 ) Weezer - Say It Ain’t So
    6 ) Deftones - My Own Summer (Shove It) 6 ) Fang Island - Chompers 6 ) Green Day - X-Kid
    Tier 1 (Easy songs)
    7 ) The Dear Hunter - Stuck On A Wire Out On A Fence 7 ) Deftones - My Own Summer (Shove It) 7 ) System Of A Down - Hypnotize
    8 ) The Shins - For A Fool 8 ) The Dear Hunter - Stuck On A Wire Out On A Fence 8 ) Ratt - Round And Round
    9 ) Splashh - All I Wanna Do 9 ) The Shins - For A Fool 9 ) JAWS - Stay In
    10 ) PAWS - Sore Tummy 10 ) Splashh - All I Wanna Do 10 ) The Kinks - You Really Got Me
    11 ) JAWS - Stay In 11 ) Monster Truck - Sweet Mountain River 11 ) The Police - Every Breath You Take
    12 ) Jack White - Sixteen Saltines 12 ) JAWS - Stay In 12 ) The Shins - For A Fool
    13 ) Paramore – Now 13 ) Jack White - Sixteen Saltines 13 ) Bob Dylan - Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door
    Tier 2 (Standard songs)
    14 ) Arctic Monkeys - R U Mine? 14 ) Paramore – Now 14 ) Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Mary Jane’s Last Dance
    15 ) Def Leppard - Pour Some Sugar On Me (2012 15 ) Arctic Monkeys - R U Mine? 15 ) Fang Island - Chompers
    16 ) The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black 16 ) Def Leppard - Pour Some Sugar On Me (2012 16 ) Nirvana - Heart Shaped Box
    17 ) Alice In Chains - Stone 17 ) The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black 17 ) Alice In Chains - Stone
    18 ) The Kinks - You Really Got Me 18 ) Alice In Chains - Stone 18 ) Kiss - Rock And Roll All Nite
    19 ) Bob Dylan - Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door 19 ) The Kinks - You Really Got Me 19 ) R.E.M. - Losing My Religion
    20 ) EarlyRise – Wasteland 20 ) Bob Dylan - Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door 20 ) Paramore – Now
    21 ) Muse - Knights Of Cydonia 21 ) EarlyRise – Wasteland 21 ) Joe Satriani - Satch Boogie
    22 ) Nirvana - Heart Shaped Box 22 ) Muse - Knights Of Cydonia 22 ) Jack White - Sixteen Saltines
    Tier 3 (Moderately challenging songs)
    23 ) Kiss - Rock And Roll All Nite 23 ) Nirvana - Heart Shaped Box 23 ) Monster Truck - Sweet Mountain River
    24 ) Monster Truck - Sweet Mountain River 24 ) Kiss - Rock And Roll All Nite 24 ) Deftones - My Own Summer (Shove It)
    25 ) La Sera - Love That’s Gone 25 ) R.E.M. - Losing My Religion 25 ) Minus The Bear - Cold Company
    26 ) Green Day - X-Kid 26 ) La Sera - Love That’s Gone 26 ) EarlyRise – Wasteland
    27 ) Oasis - Don’t Look Back In Anger 27 ) Green Day - X-Kid 27 ) Oasis - Don’t Look Back In Anger
    28 ) Foo Fighters - Everlong 28 ) Oasis - Don’t Look Back In Anger 28 ) Rise Against - Savior
    29 ) System Of A Down - Hypnotize 29 ) Foo Fighters - Everlong 29 ) The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black
    30 ) Alice Cooper - No More Mr. Nice Guy 30 ) System Of A Down - Hypnotize 30 ) Arctic Monkeys - R U Mine?
    31 ) The Police - Every Breath You Take 31 ) Alice Cooper - No More Mr. Nice Guy 31 ) PAWS - Sore Tummy
    32 ) Bush - Machinehead 32 ) The Police - Every Breath You Take 32 ) The Who - My Generation
    Tier 4 (Challenging Songs)
    33 ) Weezer - Say It Ain’t So 33 ) Bush - Machinehead 33 ) Splashh - All I Wanna Do
    34 ) Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Mary Jane’s Last Dance 34 ) Weezer - Say It Ain’t So 34 ) Foo Fighters - Everlong
    35 ) B’z - ultra soul 35 ) Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Mary Jane’s Last Dance 35 ) Pantera - Cemetery Gates
    36 ) Boston - Peace Of Mind 36 ) B’z - ultra soul 36 ) Bush - Machinehead
    37 ) Screaming Females - Rotten Apple 37 ) Boston - Peace Of Mind 37 ) The Dear Hunter - Stuck On A Wire Out On A Fence
    38 ) Rise Against - Savior 38 ) Screaming Females - Rotten Apple 38 ) Iron Maiden - The Trooper
    39 ) Queen - We Are The Champions 39 ) Rise Against - Savior 39 ) Avenged Sevenfold - Bat Country
    40 ) Red Fang - Wires 40 ) Queen - We Are The Champions 40 ) Screaming Females - Rotten Apple
    41 ) White Zombie - Thunder Kiss ‘65 41 ) Red Fang - Wires 41 ) Gold Motel - Brand New Kind Of Blue
    42 ) Mastodon - Blood and Thunder 42 ) White Zombie - Thunder Kiss ‘65 42 ) White Zombie - Thunder Kiss ‘65
    43 ) Iron Maiden - The Trooper 43 ) Mastodon - Blood and Thunder 43 ) Queen - We Are The Champions
    Tier 5 (Devil tier)
    44 ) Aerosmith - Walk This Way 44 ) Iron Maiden - The Trooper 44 ) Mastodon - Blood and Thunder
    45 ) Radiohead - Paranoid Android 45 ) Aerosmith - Walk This Way 45 ) Red Fang - Wires
    46 ) Slayer - War Ensemble 46 ) Radiohead - Paranoid Android 46 ) Alice Cooper - No More Mr. Nice Guy
    47 ) Fang Island - Chompers 47 ) Slayer - War Ensemble 47 ) Muse - Knights Of Cydonia
    48 ) Ratt - Round And Round 48 ) Ratt - Round And Round 48 ) Boston - Peace Of Mind
    49 ) Pantera - Cemetery Gates 49 ) Pantera - Cemetery Gates 49 ) Radiohead - Paranoid Android
    50 ) Rush - The Spirit Of Radio 50 ) Rush - The Spirit Of Radio 50 ) Slayer - War Ensemble
    51 ) The Smashing Pumpkins - The Chimera 51 ) The Smashing Pumpkins - The Chimera 51 ) The Smashing Pumpkins - The Chimera
    52 ) Tak Matsumoto - Go Further 52 ) Tak Matsumoto - Go Further 52 ) Aerosmith - Walk This Way
    53 ) Minus The Bear - Cold Company 53 ) Minus The Bear - Cold Company 53 ) Rush - The Spirit Of Radio
    54 ) Avenged Sevenfold - Bat Country 54 ) Avenged Sevenfold - Bat Country 54 ) B’z - ultra soul
    55 ) Joe Satriani - Satch Boogie 55 ) Joe Satriani - Satch Boogie 55 ) Tak Matsumoto - Go Further
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    Great idea. I still haven't made it through all the songs, but if all of you smarter better guitarists can get this figured out, I would really appreciate this.

    It should be sticky'd as the unofficial difficulty sort, since the in game sort doesn't really do it.
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    okay, there was someone who listed a couple of easy songs but I couldn’t find his post so I kind of went by feeling, but I have sightread many songs only once.

    For some I sightreated them in score attack so I assumed they were easier, but let’s get the thread started,

    I’ll move Hypnotize higher than Don’t Look Back In Anger, there’s nothing really hard in this song, I don’t think it could even be elected for NSmith’s championship

    so

    25) System of a Down - Hypnotize
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    Thanks a ton sh1kamaru for taking this on. I'll cross reference the song list to this thread as TBD.
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    Our first 3 weekly challenge songs are among the 5 easiest in the game? I thought I was just getting better...turns out the songs are just getting easier.
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    The Who - My Generation is easier than the challenge songs so far, so that should move towards the easier category. Not sure if it's easier than brand new kind of blue as I don't remember that one.
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    ok, so I’ll move my generation up one position

    Stone is out of place here, the bends are quite picky I think it can go down one position
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    There are five songs that I played and /or FC'd that are way too high in the list. My thoughts

    22 ) Green Day - X-Kid
    23 ) La Sera - Love That’s Gone
    24 ) Muse - Knights Of Cydonia
    27 ) The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black
    31 ) Kiss - Rock And Roll All Nite

    I feel they are all much easier than "Piece of mind" by Boston (currently 19th). I'd suggest (at least)

    19 ) The Rolling Stones - Paint it Black - a single riff, a bunch of chords and one lick "in between". Not a challenge really.
    20 ) Kiss - Rock And Roll All Nite - again, just three riffs repeating throughout the song, pretty easy to nail them after a while in RR.
    21 ) La Sera - Love That's Gone - the solo with the e+g string slides may be a little tricky, but the slow pace of this song should let everyone get the hang of it after a while
    22 ) Muse - Knights of Cydonia - most lead parts are slow / melodic. The fast part based on E5/Bm/A chords arpeggio feels rather uncomplicated and the ending riff can be easily tracked down in the RR.
    23 ) Green Day - X-Kid - I think that the rythm is rather easy. Solo - part one is on the easy side and part 2 is actually easier than it looks.
    24 ) Boston (and so on...)
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    This is framed somewhat based on coming up with a top 30 for the tournament.

    Chompers and Ultra Soul both really stick out to me as being quite low (Would at least be somewhere in the top 30). Ultra Soul's solo is one of the trickier ones around in the game, and the little 9 7 9 11 9 licks are tiny blocks where a small slip up can lead to an easy strike. The chord jumps and fills in the chorus can also be pretty easy to lose your place on. Chomper's has 2 sections pre-solo where a single miss can lead to a strike, ant the chord slide's in those sections are finicky in my experience. Beyond that, there's quite a bit of tapping involved, and the transition out of the tapping is pretty easy to mess up. When I passed this a couple weeks after release, I was still the only person with a passing score on Hard for PC.

    As far as scypio's suggestions, I definitely second Peace of Mind needing a decent bump. I need to take another look at it next time I play, but I seem to remember quite a few areas in it that are pretty easy to accumulate strikes in. I don't agree with Love That's Gone and Knights of Cydonia being too high though. Those triplets in Knights may only be one piece of the song, but they can be a pretty deadly piece. The other 3 choices he nominated to move down seem sound to me.

    I'd also recommend Everlong and Now for being moved down considerably (These don't strike me as top 30). Everlong is really only a few different chord progressions throughout. While there are small variations within them, nothing jumps out to me as being that difficult. Now does contain a lot of slides in the verse, but that riff is very consistent (ignoring gaps, which don't have much impact), so once you learn the pattern it really isn't that bad.
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    I think most would agree in putting Satch Boogie above Bat Country in terms of difficulty. I'd also put War Ensemble above Cemetery Gates, as Cemetary Gates is quite doable, though long. The more difficult sections of the solo aren't enough to fail you outright. War Ensemble has its solos, the first two being of the sloppy, shreddy variety where you have to play, note for note, something that is never played note for note. No More Mr. Nice Guy is way too high on the list imo.

    I also agree with Chompers and Ultra Soul being too low.
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