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  1. #1

    Remove extra bonus on the stunned target (Grab,Hidden,Acro kill)

    Sorry i didn't specified in the title im talkin about Assassinate

    like the title say I'm wondering about remove the Extra bonuses like Grab kill,Hidden kill and Acro kill if used on a stunned target.
    You' will problably think "WHY" well....
    Because this kills should reward you in based of the skills required in makeing them
    But where are the skills in making this kind of kill on a stunned target?!?!?
    So my idea is this ....remove the extra bonuses if a stunned target were killed with a Grab,Hidden,Acro kill and give to the player just 100 points like a normal kill
    but making work this thing only on the target that you have stunned
    sorry my english I hope you'll understand!!
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    Originally Posted by TEOmeansGOD Go to original post
    like the title say I'm wondering about remove the Extra bonuses like Grab kill,Hidden kill and Acro kill if used on a stunned target.
    You' will problably think "WHY" well....
    Because this kills should reward you in based of the skills required in makeing them
    But where are the skills in making this kind of kill on a stunned target?!?!?
    So my idea is this ....remove the extra bonuses if a stunned target were killed with a Grab,Hidden,Acro kill and give to the player just 100 points like a normal kill
    but making work this thing only on the target that you have stunned
    sorry my english I hope you'll understand!!
    If you are talking about killing a stunned target, I would assume you are mainly talking about Assassinate.

    So if I understand your logic correctly, you want to remove the bonuses for Grab, Hidden, Acrobatic kill on a stunned target because it require less or no work? Then, how do you stun them in the first place? Those take a lot of effort to pull of. If I were playing Assassinate and put an effort to stun my pursuer, I better darn well get all the bonuses I possibly can when I kill them because I DESERVE them.





    p/s: I am becoming annoyed at these attitude of "Let's improve the game by removing _________ from the game". Sure some components of the game has its own weaknesses and such, but everything that is put into the game is a product of weeks/months/years of brainstorming, revisions, debates and play-testing by the developers. These are not half-baked ideas that one guy just came up with over night and decided to put in into the game because he/she thinks it's a cool idea. It's a collective thoughts of a group of experienced game developers who have been working in the industries for years. Unless you have a degree or experience in the field game development, you don't have any credibility to say what is right or wrong in a game. To the developers, when you say their game is 'broken' or 'unplayable', it's like walking up to a pair of parents and say to their faces that their child's face looks ugly and they should go get a surgery to fix their child's face. It is inconsiderate. These people had labored their life away to make these wonderful game that we all, at one point, enjoy. All I am saying is please be considerate when commenting about the game. You don't get to COMMAND or TELL Ubisoft what to do, you get to SUGGEST to them what they can do to improve the game. And don't get me started on "I pay X amount of money for this game, so I should reap all the benefit I get from every single penny". Listen to yourself when you are saying those words. Don't be a capitalist-centric jerks.

    p/p/s: I am sorry OP for the long rant. Everything I said may or may not apply to you, so please don't take this as a personal attack. I am speaking in general, to whoever it may apply in this community.
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    no offense but that's stupid
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    The stunned target have done something wrong. It's his own fault he's stunned, not the players pursuer.
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    Originally Posted by kucingminummilo Go to original post
    p/s: I am becoming annoyed at these attitude of "Let's improve the game by removing _________ from the game".
    I'm not surprised. I haven't even been here too long, but I noticed the forums are full of suggestions that boil down to "I don't like this feature, remove it", without any thought going into what happens if you remove the feature, whether the problem is really solved by removing said feature or if it's rational do demand that something is removed just because you don't like it.

    In this case, I kinda understand where the op is coming from - if you just happened to come across a stunned target and you jump into a haystack or set up an aerial kill just because the victim can't defend themselves it's, in a way, uh, dishonest, because you wouldn't normally pull off these bonuses.

    Thing is though, firstly, a lot of times a player will proceed with their hidden or acro kills without expecting that their target will get stunned, and it certainly isn't right to punish the pursuer for the fact that their victim let itself be stunned.

    Secondly, if you come across a stunned target and think quickly enough to come up with ways to increase your score by grabbing additional acro, focus, hidden bonuses, then I rather think you deserve them. Sure, it's a little artificial, but this is the point of the game - to spot opportunities and use them.

    So no, I don't think i'ts a good idea.
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    Originally Posted by kucingminummilo Go to original post
    If you are talking about killing a stunned target, I would assume you are mainly talking about Assassinate.

    So if I understand your logic correctly, you want to remove the bonuses for Grab, Hidden, Acrobatic kill on a stunned target because it require less or no work? Then, how do you stun them in the first place? Those take a lot of effort to pull of. If I were playing Assassinate and put an effort to stun my pursuer, I better darn well get all the bonuses I possibly can when I kill them because I DESERVE them.





    p/s: I am becoming annoyed at these attitude of "Let's improve the game by removing _________ from the game". Sure some components of the game has its own weaknesses and such, but everything that is put into the game is a product of weeks/months/years of brainstorming, revisions, debates and play-testing by the developers. These are not half-baked ideas that one guy just came up with of over night and decided to put in into the game because he/she thinks it's a cool idea. It's a collective thoughts of a group of experienced game developers who have been working in the industries for years. Unless you have a degree or experience in the field game development, you don't have any kind of competence to say what is right or wrong in a game. To the developers, when you say their game is 'broken' or 'unplayable', it's like walking up to a pair of parents and say to their faces that their child's face looks ugly and they should go get a surgery to fix their child's face. It is inconsiderate. These people had labored their life away to make these wonderful game that we all, at one point, enjoy. All I am saying is please be considerate when commenting about the game. You don't get to 'COMMAND' or TELL Ubisoft what to do, you get to SUGGEST to them what they can do to improve the game. And don't get me started on "I pay X amount of money for this game, I should reap all the benefit I get from every single penny". Listen to yourself when you are saying those words. Don't be a capitalist-centric jerks.

    p/p/s: I am sorry OP for the long rant. Everything I said may or may not apply to you, so please don't take this as a personal attack. I am speaking in general, to whoever it may apply in this community.
    yeah im talking about assassinate and
    yeah maybe you right
    but we are the comunity they have opened a forum for this , to take the best ideas from the people who already play the game
    because even though they have worked to much at this game that doesn't mean it's good
    any way like you said I just suggested an idea to (IMO) improve the game and get it more competitive
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    Originally Posted by MRsmith1994 Go to original post
    no offense but that's stupid
    IDK if that can change something but i was talking about assassinate
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    Originally Posted by sajber00 Go to original post
    The stunned target have done something wrong. It's his own fault he's stunned, not the players pursuer.
    im talking about assassinate any way
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  9. #9
    Simply put, no. I know perfectly you are referring to baiting in assassinate, but taking only that in consideration is stupid. In all other modes it's the players fault if a pursuer gets a good grounded finish on him. And assassinate is broken anyway, the number of exploits and game manipulations that occur in it make it pathetic.
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    So? There are more game modes than ASA, why change the game mechanics for one mode?
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