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Only thing i could see working for this cockamamey BS is if both platforms offered something like Netflix, but for games. Pay your monthly or yearly sub, then you simply download a game to your console, then enjoy the game for as long as you want, and when you grow tired, you delete it and download something else.
Of course this does nothing really for taking games to your friends house, unless you either 1) take your consoles or 2) your friend downloads the same game, and then whats the point? Cloud saves? Yeah. screw that.
Best part about my console, is that even if there is no internet i can still play most of my games. If they force you to have internet on for it, then they WILL drive away a lot of people. Someone will no doubt say that being always online DRM style allows them to hot fix any problem, yeah it does, but then it also allows then to make tweaks to your gaming experience that you may not want.
For example ; D3. When they released a big patch after release, they seriously increased legendary drop rates, i found so many my heart soared with excitement!!! Then a few days later, i would have had a better chance of motor boating Megan Fox in public than finding legendary gear. ( biggest reason is the stupid auction house that the game was built around )
I wish the developers would look back at what made games great. Some of you may not agree,but i always look at old PS games. Like FF7. Game didn't need patches on the PS1. It had its flaws yes, but they were minor, because they couldn't patch them easily. They took great pride making sure the product that was released was as near perfection as they could. Is it sad that a game released in 1997 is still better than many games released with today's technology?
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From what ive heard sony and xbox are going to basicly be gaming pc's with their cpu architecture almost identical to each other and gaming pc's. What Iv'e been hearing is sony ditched all 3D crap they were fully ebracing once they realized it totally flopped worse than john carter the movie and replaced it with all this social face book crap. You may even be able to use it as a DVR too which is not a bog deal for me.
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Honestly, I can't wait for the announcement of each. I'm seriously contemplating the switch to the PS4. I've owned every PlayStation and both Xbox's through the years, but have been more of an Xbox "fanboy". If Sony can significantly upgrade the online portion, it will be an easy choice for me. I'm hoping they add a cross game chat like Xbox's party chat, and add some stability so they don't need maintenance and be down for hours.
If Sony could do that, but still went with restrictions on used games, I would still switch. I don't bring games anywhere, and I always purchase new anyways because I hate buying a used game and feel like i'm putting a turd in my console, I want them new and I take care of them.
I just don't like that MS is trying to cater their console to casuals now. Built in Kinect? Really? Take that **** out.
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Technically, the only console i see having any similar ground with PC, is the xbox. Both being MS babies of course. Sony doesnt have any choice really, itd be either pay MS for windows, or Apple for uh...apple, and then apple would sue the **** out of them for stealing all of their ideas about a gaming console or something.
I frequently travel, and stay for a few days at friends houses. I take my console with me most times, but usually just a game i have that they dont.
I love my console, but they will never compare to a purpose built gaming pc, specifically because you can continuously upgrade your pc, you cant do that to consoles without risking the manu's finding out and locking your crap down fast. J tag xbox's anyone? I did one simply to rid my main screen of those stupid adds, remove the video tab, and rework my dashboard to something more user friendly and less of the HEY LOOK AT THE ADS that are still there after i pay my premium
And the Kinect part, that doesn't bother me at all. Its built in kinect, not you MUST use kinect to play. I tried it on skyrim, yeah i felt like an idiot screaming fus ro dah in my living room, but hey, the fact that i COULD do it was sweet.
I'm still fairly sure all of this is hearsay. Rumors. both sides trying to psyche each other and its fans out. After all, whichever console does it first is going to bust fast. so there needs to be a sure fire way to guarantee you keep customers. always DRM isnt it.
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And it begins the following is from tech spot sorry for the author i failed plagiarism With the Wii U already on shelves and Microsoft's next-gen console imminent, Sony will be looking to set its PlayStation 4 apart from the competition. According to a report by the Wall Street Journal, one such feature may be the inclusion of games streamed in real-time over the Internet.In 2012, Sony acquired Gaikai for $380 million, a company who's claim to fame is streaming graphically-intense games from the cloud. "Our technology is such that we can stream the world's most graphically rich video games and other content instantly to almost any device, anywhere," Gaikai claims. The PlayStation-maker may be leveraging Gaikai's game-streaming technologies for its own use in console gaming.Cloud-based gaming brings a number of potential benefits to PlayStation 4 owners, although what we'll actually see remains unknown. Sony is expected to announce more details about its plans for streaming (amongst other things) this Wednesday.The PS4's backwards compatibility with PS3 titles despite its anticipated architectural overhaul is just one possible example of the benefits of streaming. Other potential advantages include persistent game worlds, persistent progress saves, platform independence by way of virtualization (playing high-end games on any type of low-end hardware -- PS4 games on the PS3?) and on-demand-style gaming for ultimate convenience. Additionally, Sony and other game makers will likely be pleased by the natural anti-piracy effect which accompanies hosting protected content remotely.Despite its perks, streaming also brings with it a few conceivable perils for gamers. With the disappearance of physical discs, gamers will also see the evanescence of both used games and local game rentals. By extension, borrowing, swapping and selling games may become tougher, if not impossible. Of course, any form of Internet dependency also comes with its own set of obvious drawbacks, not the least of which are availability and down times -- some people simply don't have access to quality connections or even broadband at all.If all of this "cloud" talk makes you nervous, it's important to note that it won't all be streaming though -- Sony is still expected to incorporate a physical media drive into its next-gen console.
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Would like to add this link to the thread.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/...ock-used-games
Like a few of us said, it was just a rumor. PS4 is looking better now, I hope MS makes a dumb decision so the switch will be easy.
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You can usually spot when data is left in, but locked to the player for the purposes of DLC sale. When you pay $19.99 USD for an unlock of 10 maps and the download is only 100kb of information. Its an unlock and nothing more. There was no value added to the game. Just unlocking something that was already there. That s*** makes me want to smash my console with a sledgehammer! At risk of being stabbed in my sleep, I do have to say there are some rare DLCs out there that are free to the player, you just have to go download it.Originally Posted by MrSludgePants Go to original post
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Good find thank you, The news is good i wouldn't be to surprised to see a used gamed unlock fee nor would i be too pissed off about it as long as its not as expensive as the used game. Game stop must be humbled knowing they could have been taken totally out of the equation. Still not buying next gen from sony though that will forever be my stance.
