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  1. #11
    Originally Posted by RAPT0R0 Go to original post
    The problem is not P2P itself, you guys already played other P2P games that dont have this issues, they try to rip off the Cod system, wich doesnt need to rent servers, only one server based on the dev for the users profiles and playlists, the diference is, the P2P of Cod works as intended, and the P2P of Ubisoft doesnt work at all, it cant Handle migrations, doesnt chose host by quality(Giving the Host unfair advantage because is connection cant handle to much players), doesnt select region and most of the time loses connection by itself.
    Sure that we all agreed that server browser and DS are far better than P2P, but if they learn how to built a proper P2P system, in the end it not that bad was it is now.
    The problem is p2p, everything you listed like migrations and excessive lag are a direct result of p2p and turning anyones household pc into a server. Sure a better system would reduce the issues but they would still exist and over time would still annoy people just as much.
    The cost of servers isn't an issue either since player hosted dedi's is exactly the same as p2p, and if they're worried about releasing server files, a system restricted to gsp's like EA use for bf is easily put in place.
    P2P is the reason myself and a lot of other people started boycotting cod, it used to be a huge esport game which is what got people into it in the 1st place and gave it a name, now its known as a joke on the net and has left thousands of competitive players without any decent online competition.

    Theres just no excuse for p2p on anything but pure co-op games.
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    Originally Posted by RAPT0R0 Go to original post
    The problem is not P2P itself, you guys already played other P2P games that dont have this issues.
    Eh ??? The problem "IS" the P2P system !

    No I don't play CoD because of the P2P system. it sucks.

    The MP of FC3 would be massive if we had dedicated servers, no cost to UBI..
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    Originally Posted by matty101yttam Go to original post
    The problem is p2p, everything you listed like migrations and excessive lag are a direct result of p2p and turning anyones household pc into a server. Sure a better system would reduce the issues but they would still exist and over time would still annoy people just as much.
    The cost of servers isn't an issue either since player hosted dedi's is exactly the same as p2p, and if they're worried about releasing server files, a system restricted to gsp's like EA use for bf is easily put in place.
    P2P is the reason myself and a lot of other people started boycotting cod, it used to be a huge esport game which is what got people into it in the 1st place and gave it a name, now its known as a joke on the net and has left thousands of competitive players without any decent online competition.

    Theres just no excuse for p2p on anything but pure co-op games.
    Sorry to disagreed with you, in the competition side I dont know, so I dont have opinion, but I never had problems with Cod Mw3 or black Ops 2, only with mw2 that was the first time they used the p2p, The Host migration is normal when he Host leaves the game, not when any player leave the game, and the game begin migratiging, thats what happen most of the time with FC3 and GRFS and problably all games they are going to release, there is why we assist at so many host migration by game, I also agreed with razorfinnish, you experience lagg because of their system cannot chose proper host, not the p2p, yesterday I played one cod match and then try one of FC3, it doesnt even seem that this games use the same "p2p", the diference is so huge, and i only point out Cod, but there are other games that use p2p, and none like ubisoft, at least that i known.
    I only said that because in the ubi forum people then to blame the lagg on the p2p was system, but then go play cod and dont complain, so after all, is P2P? or Ubisoft unability to built a proper P2P system?
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    Originally Posted by MANF4CE Go to original post
    The MP of FC3 would be massive if we had dedicated servers, no cost to UBI..

    I lold at that part never played fc2 huh?!?!
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  5. #15
    Originally Posted by oo7GG Go to original post
    I lold at that part never played fc2 huh?!?!
    I think this game could be a very big game for clan play if only they would implement dedicated servers.
    From what i have experienced the gameplay in FC3 feels so much better than FC2.
    I have never played a p2p game before because i knew what it would be like, sadly my fears were confirmed.
    I loved Cod 4 but never bought another cod game since they entered the p2p system.
    I am BF player and dedicated servers have always been a given for us.
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    Originally Posted by Taity1968 Go to original post
    I think this game could be a very big game for clan play if only they would implement dedicated servers.
    From what i have experienced the gameplay in FC3 feels so much better than FC2.
    I have never played a p2p game before because i knew what would be like, sadly my fears were confirmed.
    I loved Cod 4 but never bought another cod game since they entered the p2p system.
    I am BF player and dedicated servers have always been a given for us.
    full agree!
    p2p killllll mp games ....worst system to play online
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    Originally Posted by oo7GG Go to original post
    I lold at that part never played fc2 huh?!?!
    I do actually have in steam, but never played it.
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  8. #18
    I would like to know which clown within ubisoft thought it was a good idea to have p2p for the pc version?
    Just smells lazy and greedy to me.
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    Originally Posted by Taity1968 Go to original post
    I would like to know which clown within ubisoft thought it was a good idea to have p2p for the pc version?
    Just smells lazy and greedy to me.
    yhae....pls post here ubi!!!
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  10. #20
    I would like to see MSV-Vextor reply to this please ,because mp p2p in farcry 3 is just beyond ****ing silly
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