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  1. #1

    Why do people put water in their maps and have no way to get out of it?

    Its ok when i see the enemy fall in and get stuck, then i can shoot them. thats funny. what isnt funny is when i fall in because then i have to drown myself or spend ages swimming round the edge like a ****** trying to get out.
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  2. #2
    Because those people are dumb and don't even test their map or don't even give a sh*t about it.
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  3. #3
    they are dumb. annoys me
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  4. #4
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    Why dont you find out who made the map and ask them to change it. Serves no purpose complaining in the forums
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  5. #5
    Because to find who made the map, if you played it randomly in the bronze -or silver- category, you have to
    Note the name of the map
    Search/type the map in the archive
    Look at the author/creator
    Then type this name to write it a comment to change that thing on his usless map (cause if it don't even know that, he probably didn't a good job on the rest of the map).
    Thing, that he probably won't change.
    So...
    No.
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    probably because when they made it in the editor - you could get out of the water, but because the physics are different in the multiplayer. areas that before were passable - now no longer are.

    It's really annoying, because it's a total hassle to make a change - save map - exit editor - goto multiplayer - upload map - start private match- change settings to minimum player = 1 - wait for 80 second countdown to finish - test map - note the changes you have to make - then exit game - exit multiplayer - load editor - load map - make changes - save map - exit editor - goto multiplayer - delete existing "online" map - upload new version - start private match - change settings - wait for the 80 second countdown to finish - then start match, and test changes.

    and that is the only way to test ANY change in your map

    This is even more annoying when you want to test something specific to a team - (for example i needed to test something on red spawn, because the team is assigned randomly. so you have to start the game, end the game, start the game, end the game - until you randomly get red spawn - then you only have one test - and each time you end and restart the match not only do you have the loading wait - you also have the countdown you can't skip to wait for)

    So yea - i'm not suprised some people have simple gone "F#ck it - that'l do"
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  7. #7
    Originally Posted by theBreadSultan Go to original post
    wait for the 80 second countdown to finish - then start match, and test changes.
    Just so you know, this is not necessary. Change the settings to 1 player needed, then hit save on the menu. The match should start immediately.

    On the subject of water, please if you're adding it to your map, but you want players to be able to walk through it, actually test they can do this. I have played a lot of maps where my player will do some kind of steeple chase type animation ducking in and out of the water and swimming through puddles. If you're using the terrain tools with distortion you will have patches where it is too deep.

    You need to test going through it from different angles and speeds because sometimes the swim will trigger, other times not. Generally it is best to keep your water either ALL walkable, or all swimmable, in specfic areas - unless you make it obvious there is a crossing that is shallow.
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  8. #8
    Yeah and don't put any spawns IN the water... Just remembered that map where all the shared spawn point were in the middle of the map, in the middle of the water where it was impossible to get out (swinning 30 sec)...
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  9. #9
    Originally Posted by theBreadSultan Go to original post
    probably because when they made it in the editor - you could get out of the water, but because the physics are different in the multiplayer. areas that before were passable - now no longer are.
    is this true??
    if it is i didnt know this and i bet lots of other people dont know either.

    so testing a map in the editor is pointless thats what youre saying?
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  10. #10
    Originally Posted by TheChappy1 Go to original post
    is this true??
    if it is i didnt know this and i bet lots of other people dont know either.

    so testing a map in the editor is pointless thats what youre saying?
    Yup fraid so - the man in the editor can jump higher & further, can also climb steeper inclines, & takes less fall damage - he is also physically larger
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