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I understand. We feel that we have not gotten what we deserve; a working product. There are STILL d/c issues in the multiplayer, there are STILL performance issues, there are STILL crashes. This game IS a mess, I agree. But is it really beyond fixing? Unlike most people, I have faith that this game can be fixed, and I believe that the style of gameplay is refreshing and unique in the PC TPS genre. And Ubisoft HAS talked about fixing the game in future patches. Can't you be happy at the very least that we are getting patches, and that the PC version has not been abandoned? I'm not saying we should be happy with Ubisoft and their handling of the situation, but that we should be a little bit less negative and/or more constructive.
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Instead of posting on the forums Ubisoft employee get back to work on making the game better.Originally Posted by Th34ce Go to original post
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known issues are most hardware faults, can only be solved if you break as a programmer the warranty rules ( !? ) next thing there is a communication structure for making games. It is not possible for Ubisoft to fix the game, the got an heavy argument to break the hardware manufacturers programming rules ( if the hardware can really do it ) if the hardware can do things only for show..... ? what would you say if they crash your PC? I am on here with an industrial product, a machine, and none of the things on the consumer side are really successful, sorry ..... and some ideas are very very logic ( that means too much ). like user clans that didn´t influence anything. because their right is for that on the wrong side ( page ) of the law. I have to sell millions of cd´s to make the market work and i am not interested in disturbed people without the further going interest on what the money is. This here is a place to set up money plans, but making money is outside from here and making friends may possible here if you are interested in real life. And what do you have against the kids around here ? it is a game ( ok, content bla bla )
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slander and non-constructive posts'Normally, I'd agree with 'slander and non-constructive posts dilute important information ' i.e. the old saw about signal to noise ratio on a forum; however in this case we have a game so substantially broken that less than a fraction of 1% of the paying audience, is actually playing the game.Originally Posted by Ubi-Mush Go to original post
I'm in no way excusing tantrums, swearing, insults and other petty behavior -- however Ubisoft Support while they may help track unreconciled issues, is in no way able to get what's broken fixed; neither are the likely to be willing or able to properly convey the scale of the issue with real numbers to decision makers at Ubisoft for a number of reasons -- job security being among them.
So forum metrics (if some Ubisoft decision makers have had the foresight to see the forums properly equipped to track them) should at least offer the ability to track and corroborate some very valuable statistical information with respect not just to Customer perception but the scale of very real problems that effect Ubisoft products that will effect Ubsoft financially... So, even ridiculous tirades can offer valuable information if they're being counted properly...
Unfortunately, with things going on as they have for three months, it's difficult to feature what's going on at Ubisoft corporate...
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Ubisoft want´s to get into another market now, but they break the market rules ( like the other on the existing markets, too ) so they break the market . For me once it was an idea to bring music datas on sheet of plain paper to copy them very cheap with a sign of origin. Now I got 800 billion bucks ( in Dollars as example ) what is money wich nobody wants to have for working on other ideas. That may be a consumer interest, but the market is broken so there is nobody interested to go further ( and the game content uuuuhhhh ). Reality bites. The law what is used here, is managed by people known as "blackmailers on law" what meets the Russian version "thieves in the law" . They buy stones for their money, put another word on them and sell them again. Brainless consum thing. We did not expect any positive reaction, because it never happens in the past. In our business it is called as a depression, like the psychic disease. But this depression cannot be managed with pills. Thats the brainbug I mean.
We got now several decades the cable tv, what do ubisoft think who they are on a completely damaged market where money is paid for nothing else than words ( have you seen this on tv have you seen that on tv ). for what I have to watch these things?, I am not interested in Murderers and their hunters. Don´t want people as murderers so you need no hunter ( and I am really not vegan ) both are senseless. You know, here in Germany the Deutsche comes to make us drug dealers, the next thing was they go on the courtyard with these informations to tell us as dealers ( criminals ) ( uuuuuhhhhh very bad thing, because we got pills ) and now we got a pill problem on the market depression wich costs all of our money ( one of my girlfriends, who is now out from a ten year rehab of taking a drug one time, so they released her after a decade of taking the pills against the peoples odds ) It costs every month tenthousand bucks, the clinic was working like a Jail she is several times raped under these pills ( you know the film " the girl with the dragon tattoo" , it is her in real life, I wrote a short story on her for herself ) and at least now the Judge himself comes for his sexual interest ( thats no happy End in this story ) You know what I mean ?
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As someone who has been merely reading these forums without actually owning the game (until about a week ago), I was pretty disappointed in all the negative posts. I mean that two different ways. Like someone else mentioned, you feel embarrassed by how some people act incredibly childish and vulgar, acting as if their lives are on the line (and as if they dropped $5000 on the game). I think the embarrassed feeling comes from the fact that we *all* are part of the same "Ghost Recon" community, and that's how most people reading these forums views it, in my opinion. It's not really fair, but a few bad apples do spoil the bunch. Acting like a spoiled punk allows people to easily dismiss *everyone*...and that's human nature - guilt by association. Real information can get lost in a cesspool of nonsense. The other disappointment is that it really seems as if UBI has dropped the ball on releasing a reasonably finished product on the PC. I mean, I actually laughed out loud when I read some of the early patch notes, considering the patches were fixing such things as the inability to actually move within the game. I certainly wasn't laughing at the people who dropped down their hard earned cash, but it was more of a "are you serious?" laugh. Can that even be considered a "bug"? Anyway, I think a lot of the frustration comes from:
A: Previous UBI *PC* titles getting less and less TLC with a solid side order of consolitis.
[grumble - "What are you doing to my pc games?"]
B: Previous titles began having glaring issues that never got fixed before the developers moved on to new titles (infamous gun loop sounds on *both* Vegas games anyone?)
[distrust growing - "Are you guys even listening to us?"]
C: LACK OF COMMUNICATION - Having a road map, or just a simple game plan and communicating it with your user base is invaluable. For anyone who doesn't think this is important, simply visit any number of Steam forums where devs engage their customers. Some of those customers are having technical issues, and yet their *still* end up begging the devs to take their money for unreleased products, patches, or DLC. Why? Because there is good faith. The customer actually sees first-hand that the devs are human and are actually trying to resolve issues. They aren't hiding behind generic responses or outright ignoring them. As for the spoiled brats that still exist even in that environment?...the rest of the users do a good job of policing their own, because you can actually defend the defensible.
[distrust has grown to the size of Texas now - "I think they just skipped town with my $50... these guys must wake up laughing each!". Feels like the sick feeling you get after an ebay deal or forum trade goes bad].
D: The top dog at UBI insults the living hell out of his paying customers (again) by making foolish piracy claims. I really think those comments probably make the devs (and the mods here) cringe...thanks for making theirs and everyone's jobs harder, Guillemot!
[Rage! - "Not only have I given you my hard earned money and got short-changed with a broken, inferior product, but that wasn't good enough for you so you want to INSULT me on top of it!?" Rage!]
A+B+C+D = a perfect storm... Actually, I somehow managed to leave out DRM from the recipe. This is why I don't bake.
I think I got long winded. My original point was to just agree that there are clearly things to be upset about, but we should all try to be civil about it. On a side note, call me stupid, but even after following these (and Steam's) forums for this game for the past couple months, I purchased 2 copies of the game last week. I have played without a single issue (only a few missions in SP, but several MP matches). I don't say that to rub it in that I am lucky and others are not... or to suggest that the game isn't broken for many. I say it to point out that most of the problems must have technical solutions. I mean the fact that it plays fine for me indicates that in certain "configurations", the game does actually work. So finding the differences between working and non-working installations is where it's at. Providing *useful* information can only help. Worst case is it gets ignored... best case you are playing this fun game after additional patching.
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Thats no reference for a game it is reference for a tv or a blue ray thing, that you can game with it is a plus. And if I started the game I could play without any influence online too with DX11. There is an outside influence for money, because they need by around 5000 players ( that means 250.000 bucks ) additional money to pay the dev crews. And another thing tells me about the internet ( wich is planned as a cloud community ) that there is a wrong interest, too. Changing the arguments will change the game, no money or talking about money will do this.
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You hit the nail on the head my good sir.Originally Posted by Prodigy_XP Go to original post
Wise words and couldn't agree more.
John-Honey2012 are you using google translator or are you on drugs? if so, share...
P.S: GIMME MY XP SUPPORT NOW!!! (sorry I just HAVE to write this at this point)
