It is time to remove kills and deaths from the stat tracker | Forums

[xKenshin Himura]

Win or lose some people are sick of the parasite mentality. Do nothing to help your team but still get the win because of the work of others. There is a guy on the forums who brags about never playing the point because he gets more points running around stunning, hacking, and then never killing anyone because he gets more points that way. Then there are the people who don't care about XP or winning and just lay down the entire match sniping at areas what there are never control points in their POV.

It was a suggestion on how to get people to actually play as a team instead of playing for themselves. The game tries better than any other game to reward teamwork but it fails in certain instances.

You will notice he does state that people on his team and against him are doing it. You do realize there are "CRAZY" people out there that look for a good even competitive game instead of grinding substandard people to dust right?

Finally, somebody who gets it.

And as for the quote above it, Here is how it makes sense. Yeah, I might be getting more wins, but the game was boring as hell because they did nothing but camp. I will take a competitive loss over an enemy-camping win any day.

This is one of the reasons why I stopped playing MW3, too many campers. My clan would always win 200-100 because the enemy team did nothing but camp in their spawn. And then whenever we did face another clan that went for the obj, they would back out when they realized we were destroying their kd. For those of you that don't know, whenever you kill somebody in MW3, you get to hear their last words and they would often say "These guys are ruining my kd, back out, my kd is f---ed, etc" For those of you that care, no I am not garbage at MW3 either, kd 2.14 and win loss over 10 (last time I checked) and that is with going for the obj and capping.


And no, we don't take ourselves that serious, hence the name of our clan, THE NYAN CLAN, we represent the greatest space flying poptart cat on youtube, expect us.

[xBUTTERSx89]

Really??? REALLY? Kd spread needs to go? If that's a huge bother to you then quit playing games that involve killing and dying In them as that's the only way you will ever get away from this horible horible feature in a game, I mean it's so hard and depressing when a kid gets on your nerves for getting more kills then you, how about you just mute them or not care like most people do, it's a game and it doesn't make much of a difference if someone's kd is better then yours in a match no matter how they did it, honestly if camping gets them more kills then running around then more power to them, let people play a game how they wish to play a game, what your saying would be no different then some one getting upset at you for playing the way you like it
"oh you only did good because you used an assault rifle....that's cheating man your not cool"

[vtolegend3]

By letting them do as they please they are making the game less enjoyable. They are sitting in their spawn camping and getting kills while I am at the objective with nothing to do than to stare at the wall. I could also get more xp from obj denials if they would just grow a pair and play objectively.

yeah, because god forbid someone would want to play THEIR game THEIR way.

[L0STMYMRBLES]

Part of his complaint is that he's already getting more wins. Which makes no sense at all, if you ask me.

Lol indeed I wish I had that problem. I lose all the time when I'm playin free willy style. Anyway personally I support this. I posted this on the fedback sticky not long after the games release (somewhere around page 14 or so). : )

[xKenshin Himura]

Really??? REALLY? Kd spread needs to go? If that's a huge bother to you then quit playing games that involve killing and dying In them as that's the only way you will ever get away from this horible horible feature in a game, I mean it's so hard and depressing when a kid gets on your nerves for getting more kills then you, how about you just mute them or not care like most people do, it's a game and it doesn't make much of a difference if someone's kd is better then yours in a match no matter how they did it, honestly if camping gets them more kills then running around then more power to them, let people play a game how they wish to play a game, what your saying would be no different then some one getting upset at you for playing the way you like it
"oh you only did good because you used an assault rifle....that's cheating man your not cool"

WOW! Somebody just missed the point ENTIRELY!

It needs to go because for some kids THAT IS ALL THEY CARE ABOUT. And when that is all you care about, then you start camping. When you start camping, you play like a scared little baby. When you play like a scared little baby, it makes the game boring because there isn't anybody at the objective. When there isn't anybody at the objective, objective players get bored. When objective players get bored, they trade the game in. When they trade the game in, the game is left with nothing but 2 teams of campers who have every game end in a tie, because nobody went for the objectives and just sat in their spawn waiting for somebody to show up so they could snipe them (this is obviously an overstatement, so don't fall for the obvious troll)

And as for this part "what your saying would be no different then some one getting upset at you for playing the way you like it"
What I am saying is the basic principle of any game whether it be a video game or football, PLAY THE OBJECTIVE! So yeah, what I am saying is different. I am playing the way you are SUPPOSED TO PLAY.

When you play football, you don't just let the ball carrier go because he would be too hard to tackle and you could get more tackles to pad your stats by simply tackling his teammates on the sidelines.

[L0STMYMRBLES]

LMAO ^^ @ the tackle his team instead comment...good stuff

[Neophoenix78]

yeah, because god forbid someone would want to play THEIR game THEIR way.

Since we are both in the game wouldn't it be OUR game Mr. Hand?

And if their way goes against the spirit of the game or game mode they are playing in yes. Keep on defending people trying to get field goals in baseball and home runs in soccer. Keep defending those little league children with their baseball gloves on their head running around in circles in right field pretending they are an airplane. They do not belong there and neither do the campers not playing objectives. How hard it is to camp the objective once we get it. They do not even do that. If they did I wouldn't mind because then it is playing the game mode properly. We are talking about the people who sit in one corner that isn't even a choke point and will never have any objectives spawn near there. It ruins the game for those people playing the game mode the way the developers want you to play it.

[xKenshin Himura]

yeah, because god forbid someone would want to play THEIR game THEIR way.

Like I have said before (not this topic) Just because it is yours, doesn't give you the right to use it the way you want to use it. You can buy a car, you can drive a car on your own private property however you want (say you had a large farm) but when you bring it out onto the road, you have to obey certain laws, you can't go driving 70 in a school zone.

Now I know that some of you are gonna say "But there aren't any laws against camping and it doesn't physically endanger others" I know that, that isn't the point. The point is to show you an example of how you can own something and not be ENTITLED to use it your way. It should be an unwritten rule that people follow. You can do whatever you want in your single player and private match games, use any number of hacks/cheats/glitches you want. But when you bring that into multiplayer, it stops there.

I JUST HAD A BRILLIANT IDEA! I'll develop hack to where I can shoot my gun and it will automatically kill anybody I deem to be a camper. Oh wait, do I suddenly not have the right to play MY GAME MY WAY?!!! That is what I thought HYPOCRITE. If you are going to debate this issue with me, try doing it after you've closed the gap of the obvious difference between the two of us.

[xKenshin Himura]

This is a drag, and it is happening a lot but they will never remove the K/D stat. Your best bet [OP] is to try and find a squad. Ull have much more fun and get more wins.

My problem isn't wins or the fact that I don't have a squad. It is campers who make the game boring and give me easy wins

[OldFlads]

Only read the OP and you sir are RIGHT! Remove KDR and make the objective the focus!