My friends and I have been playing online for a while now and there are a lot of legitamitely crazy good players out there. However, we feel we may have ran into some cheaters, although far and few in between. So far we've only seen 4 of suspiscion.
The first time we were playing there was a guy that no matter how many grenades and bullets, he would not fall. I watched my friend light him up w/ an LMG, I counted 4 or 5 blood splatter + a grenade at his feet. On top of that he was pulling head shots on almost every kill using an LMG mind you.
The second guy while not a HS machine, was impossible to kill. Grenades, bullets, etc.
The third encounter, was killable, but it took an incredible amount of bullets to kill him. Even with when we woul HS him he would not fall.
The fourth guy was actually on our team, but we noticed he was laying people down with headshots with pray and spray from quite the distance. I don't relish being on teams with cheaters either.
The first time this happened we chalked it up to lag or something of that nature. However, as we began to see several examples of such things we have grown suspicious. Has anyboyd else noticed suspect activity other than us?
Please, be honest, and don't rage. This is an important topic. I would hate to see such a fantastic game go the way of CoD franchise. after it's first, and best modern shooter CoD4. Every other game in the CoD series since you're encountering hackers and exploiters.
In the fight against cheaters we must remain ever vigilant.
Some friends and I spent some time on MP the other night and had one match in particular where we experienced the same thing. A couple of my buddies also tried to explain it away as some kind of lag effect, but I'm with you that there is definitely something fishy going on. My main reason being that these guys weren't even trying to play stealthily. They would just wade out into the middle of an open area and lay waste to us no matter how many bullets we put into them. As far as the 4 or 5 blood splatters? I watched a guy absorb into the high double digits on the blood splatters before he finally turned his sites on me and took me out. I've also seen some guys moving like they have super-sprint, so I don't know what's going on. But it would be nice if Ubisoft would come out and explain some of the things we've seen and put forward a plan to fix (and if actual cheating is involved, punish those doing it) the issues.
Generally when players aren't dying it's just lag, but it depends on whether they are playing like they are lagging. If they aren't moving at all or their movements are very jumpy or if they die a couple seconds after you shoot them then you can say it's lag. Happened to me once during the beta. I was lagging (or maybe it was a glitch because if the lag was that bad I should've been disconnected) and all I could do was stand in a corner and not do anything at all. I stayed because it was funny watching 3 guys unload mag after mag into me with no result. I got some hatemail afterwards for that.![]()
As far as the underground glitch goes, I'm sure there could be a real exploit players can do to get down below the map, but last night it just happened to me when i tried to spawn normally like i do all the time. I was playing on the ship map, when suddenly i press x to spawn & im under the ground standing on the water like jesus :/ I had been doing pretty well up till that point so i didnt want to quit the match, but i couldnt kill myself down there & try to respawn, so i had to just wait the round out below the map. lame, yes. especially since you can still shoot other players from down there. But unless there is a person consistently doing this match after match somehow, so far I've just seen it as a more random occurrence.Originally Posted by spenceman79 Go to original post
I've also noticed these "unkillable" enemies from time to time, but so far in my experience i think its all been due to a poor host connection rather than a real hacker / exploiter taking advantage of the game. i think if they work to fix the host issues, then we will be able to narrow down who is a legit exploiter / hacker, as having it happen without all these cases of lag working in the favor of the host / random underground spawns, the real cheaters will be a lot more obvious.
Without trashing the thread and your thoughts IMO it's ALL down to lag. There may be players trying to cheat but ultimately its getting harder to in newer games, except mainstream games were people set out just to cheat/find glitches. Like yourselves I have had certain moments but I just assume its server lag, a bad connection between players and leave so it doesn't happen again.
If you are convinced though check out their stats after and anything dodgy will easy to spot, then either report them to UBI or trash them on here LOL.
I experienced this yesterday playing Decoy on overpass. The other team was capturing an objective, i ran to the objective, tossed a sensor and nothing showed. I thought, oh crap they have an engineer with a jammer at the objective... but, when i got there no one was there, while the capture timer continued to go up and they captured the objective. As soon as they captured the objective i was shot and the kill cam showed a guy under the map. This happened a few more times during the match.Originally Posted by spenceman79 Go to original post