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    templars and hidden blades

    today it's the first time i realise that the templars (in mp) are training there men like assassin's and with hidden blades.How lang are the templars also using hidden blades and how often do they use "stealth" because in the games we haven't seen such a templars yet. exept for vali cel tradat(the sentinel) but he was an assassin before he was a templarf vv
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    Errr...

    We're not really sure of too many things concerning the Templars. They are secretive for a reason. We'll no doubt learn more about them in AC3.
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    The point of the MP plot is that they are training their agents to be as leathal as the assassins, that includes their weapons and tactics. They went with "fight fire with fire" method. It was all explained in the intro MP trailer in AC B i think, they might have shown it again in Revelations. Not sure anymore
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    Yeah, that seemed weird to me too, but for a different reason. Unless they are going to fight at some point in the past (which, due to various limitations regarding space-time, is impossible), it would be more practical for Abstergo to use their resources to train with more modern tactics (more like Hitman, than Assassin's Creed), but that wouldn't make much sense, gameplay wise (Hey, look! MP has completely different gameplay!).

    /sigh. Another reason I don't like the modern storyline too much...

    Originally Posted by lothario-da-be;8235860How lang are the templars also using hidden blades and how often do they use "stealth" because in the games we haven't seen such a templars yet. exept for vali cel tradat(the sentinel)[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif
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    Anywhom, side note. Is Revelations your first Assassin's Creed game? (Not meaning to attribute any negative connotations to the question, just curious.)

    The entire series is spent devoted fighting the Templars, and we see quite a bit of them.

    AC1: The Templars are the targets you must kill, and ideologically very similar to the Assassin's, yet fight like knights or soldiers.

    AC2: The Templars are difficult to spot, but we know that many people, such as the Pope, the Pazzi family and some members of the Barbarigo family, are Templars. It's also slightly implied that some guards are secretly Templars. None of them act much like Assassins.

    ACB: The Borgia and almost all of the guards are Templars. They act pretty much the same as Assassin's Creed II Templars.

    ACR: The Byzantine remnants are Templars. You know all those guys with Eagles on their armor? Those are the Templars. They act, like, well, guards.

    Anyways, we've seen them before, and they do not act much like Assassins. I think I'd go with Scystab's opinion on why they are acting like Assassins (Besides, of course, having a MP mode that plays the same as SP.)
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    Originally Posted by Potato54321 Go to original post
    Anywhom, side note. Is Revelations your first Assassin's Creed game? (Not meaning to attribute any negative connotations to the question, just curious.)

    The entire series is spent devoted fighting the Templars, and we see quite a bit of them.

    AC1: The Templars are the targets you must kill, and ideologically very similar to the Assassin's, yet fight like knights or soldiers.

    AC2: The Templars are difficult to spot, but we know that many people, such as the Pope, the Pazzi family and some members of the Barbarigo family, are Templars. It's also slightly implied that some guards are secretly Templars. None of them act much like Assassins.

    ACB: The Borgia and almost all of the guards are Templars. They act pretty much the same as Assassin's Creed II Templars.

    ACR: The Byzantine remnants are Templars. You know all those guys with Eagles on their armor? Those are the Templars. They act, like, well, guards.

    Anyways, we've seen them before, and they do not act much like Assassins. I think I'd go with Scystab's opinion on why they are acting like Assassins (Besides, of course, having a MP mode that plays the same as SP.)
    That's what the guy was saying.. Vali Cel-Tradat was one of the only Templars who behaved similar to an Assassin, killing people using stealth and so on. And I tjhink he's right, at least I can't recall any particular one, aside from the multiplayer characters in Project Legacy of course.
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    Originally Posted by Potato54321 Go to original post
    Yeah, that seemed weird to me too, but for a different reason. Unless they are going to fight at some point in the past (which, due to various limitations regarding space-time, is impossible), it would be more practical for Abstergo to use their resources to train with more modern tactics (more like Hitman, than Assassin's Creed), but that wouldn't make much sense, gameplay wise (Hey, look! MP has completely different gameplay!).
    Here is my explanation to the way Abstergo today train their recruits;
    Ofcourse they need a lot of people to find and kill the assassins , but inn order to do so, they need to be highly trained people.
    Now with all the resources Abstero has, it would not be a question of how well they would prepare their men for the assassins ( like a military base here and there)
    BUT even Abstergo is not true to the public, they are at least as secretive as the assassins, thus al those high profile preps and trainings , for what? an enemy they cant even point out? ( to the public and their sponsors and miscalenous "contacts" at least) Thus they took advantage of the researc done with the animus subjects, seeing that the bleeding effect is actuaaly possible, they do that on a massive scale under a suposedly very big office building, thus keeping their other face hidden to the public WHILE stil training their men for tha assassin hunts.
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    It's not surprising some Templars would use the assassins' technology for their own purposes. They've probably caught and killed quite a few of them across the centuries and found the hidden blade a useful weapon, so they stole the designs and made some modifications. (The hidden blades in the ACR MP retract more like a switchblade during the kill animations, not like the classic assassin blade. Also, in ACB Lia de Russo's hidden blade is on top of her wrist instead of on the underside and Il Lupo's hidden blade expands upon impact to do more damage to the victim's internal organs.)
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    Originally Posted by SaintPerkele Go to original post
    That's what the guy was saying.. Vali Cel-Tradat was one of the only Templars who behaved similar to an Assassin, killing people using stealth and so on. And I tjhink he's right, at least I can't recall any particular one, aside from the multiplayer characters in Project Legacy of course.
    Ah, okay. I misunderstood what he was saying. Sorry about that OP.

    Though, friendly suggestion to the OP:
    Try to improve your grammar and spelling next time, it's sort of difficult to read. It's legible, but some commas would go a long way to making it easily read.

    Originally Posted by TrueStoic Go to original post
    Here is my explanation to the way Abstergo today train their recruits;
    Ofcourse they need a lot of people to find and kill the assassins , but inn order to do so, they need to be highly trained people.
    Now with all the resources Abstero has, it would not be a question of how well they would prepare their men for the assassins ( like a military base here and there)
    BUT even Abstergo is not true to the public, they are at least as secretive as the assassins, thus al those high profile preps and trainings , for what? an enemy they cant even point out? ( to the public and their sponsors and miscalenous "contacts" at least) Thus they took advantage of the researc done with the animus subjects, seeing that the bleeding effect is actuaaly possible, they do that on a massive scale under a suposedly very big office building, thus keeping their other face hidden to the public WHILE stil training their men for tha assassin hunts.
    Hmm...I guess. Still seems kinda implausible. What's the use of training with a hidden blade, when you could use the technology to make modern environments that they will actually fight in, and train using modern equipment? They could still be using Assassin tactics, but without the wasted energy spent on learning to use hidden blades.
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    yea, the templars actually do train in the ways of the assassin. Well the 2012 templars do, but what's stupid is that they are training by reliving the lives of their ancestors who are some how trained in the way of the assassins but in SP, which is suppose to correspond to the MP, they don't fight like assassins. I would like to see more challenging templars, seeing how they know that assassins are coming after them, i feel like they would be training day in and day out just to be ready for when an assassin does come after them
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    they use hidden blades because they want the multiplayer to provide a similar experience the SP does, simple, the background they created to justify the Multiplayer is just something that they made to make it sound cooler...
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