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@thunderkatt: I'm not sure if you've read and understood my comments on HRMs properly. But yes, there is a max limit to weight, size and age in YSFE 2012 (and in the original YSFE). I've tested the effects of these parameters earlier and only the weight adjustment seems to have a significant impact on the calorie count. Based on my weight of 80 kg, the calorie count in YSFE 2012 increases by about 1:1.54 when I set the maximum weight.
If you are NOT exercising in relation to other people, I see nothing objectionable in it, if you adapt your weight adjustment for improved calorie counting. Maybe this will help you to stay motivated and keep training. However, I doubt that the effect will last long. If you need a high calorie count to persevere, then I think your attitude to training is wrong. In defining and reaching your fitness goals, the calorie count should play no role whatsoever. No athlete defines the calorie consumption as a training target. Train hard, then you will be rewarded with better times and scores - and last but not least with greater fitness. This is definitely a better reward than a stupid calorie count.
The high calorie results of some participants of the monthly events are not solely due to the fact that they have set their weight to maximum. That would not be sufficient to explain certain results. Based on my experience and research I can say that in the last three monthly events there was hardly a conspicuous player under the top 20 who has not cheated. I will not go into details, but the lack of plausibility checks in the original YSFE and YSFE 2012 makes it possible, that these weaklings can easily surpass serious and committed competitors. This is a sad fact and it turns every monthly event sooner or later into a single farce.
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Such a solution would be too cheap. It wouldn't serve anyone and it wouldn't solve the problem. I think most people who buy YSFE want to improve their fitness and/or to lose weight. Weight loss is only possible with a negative energy balance. Burn more calories than you eat - this is the simple rule. Therefore, a counter for calorie burning is important and helpful. The problem of calorie count in YSFE is not the lack of proximity to "reality", but that very often no logical relationship between calorie count and stress level can be seen.
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I have to agree with K1200GTRED. Your "solution" is too simple for what is actually a multifaceted problem. Anyone purchasing a fitness game of this type has a reasonable expectation that it will keep track of their progress in a number of ways. The most common of these is that it track calories burned since most weight loss programs use the calories burned vs calorie intake to measure progress. I agree with you that the numbers on the leaderboard and in the events should be something other than calories. But I also realize that from a marketing stand point, showing off how many "Your Shape Points" we have all earned to the world at large would not have a much draw as saying "Look how many calories we've burned".Originally Posted by thunderkatt Go to original post
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This chart sounds optimistic, i've only had the game 2 weeks and in the first i had to push for a 150 calories a day, now im pushing to 300 and i can feel the difference. I can run twice as far and sweat half as much as I did last month. my dr said i had slightly high cholesterol, and about 15 lbs to lose based on muscle mass and height and some pincher tool he put on my skin, and I also got the prescription quit smoking pill. My endurance is up and I feel alot better thanks to my new health food my ability to breath and YSFE12 and thats what matters to me more than the calorie counter's accuracy. I enjoy being healthy and I used to workout and I enjoyed that too. I had a fight with my workout partner and we got distant before that even and I lost sight of what I enjoy. calorie counter may not be perfect but the calorie bar and counter is a great motivation tool that im thankful for, without it i know i wouldnt be doing any cardio, and likely would be a smoking unhealthy lazy sad sack. so cheers for the calorie counter, wrong or not i love it
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Not whining, first of all, but for a $50 game that supposedly has a calorie counter, I expect it to be CLOSE and it isn't anywhere near close. I work out with this game constantly and keep track of allm calories burned as well as all calories that I take in and would like it to be more accurate for weight loss.
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I do this for myself and I log into the events as a motivator, not to prove anything to anyone else but me. People who cheat at this game are wasting their own time, like cheating at solitaire. What's the point?
With that said, I would still like to know that the developer would put in the time to be a bit more accurate. When I spend 33 minutes doing the GFit exercise I am drenched and tired, and then I get to punch my 83 calories burned, it is disheartening. I checked some online charts and even used the Lose It! App that said 30 minutes of Low Impact aerobics was 150 calories burned. The whole idea of tracking every single calorie burned is far fetched, but it would be nice if Ubisoft put a little bit of research into this and then patched it or post their findings to prove they are right. I love this game and it has helped me out tremendously with the only program that I ever stuck with for more than 2 months. I will continue to play it and I am going to take the advice from above and increase my weight to match other estimates. I am also going to get an HR monitor to be sure.
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Same here. Stats have been in since day one. Migrated previous calories from old YSFE program to the new 2012 one and I definitely notice that the calories burned is seriously low. I'm taking into account my heart rate monitor, my calories burned app, and the long-hand math problem my husband rounded up for me after I'd been disappointed by the YSFE 2012 numbers being so low. I too am frustrated by the lack of time elapsed during my workout and calories burned so far in total. I quite often will work out to a specific number of calories burned (hey, what works for each of us works and that's why we're all different) or to a specific time limit (lunch break, gotta figure in shower time). Not having this info readily at hand means I have to then go to the android app on my phone to see that. Why Ubisoft can put the time/calories burned on the android app, but not in the actual game during play is beyond me. While I like the new interface better, I do hope the developers are keeping an eye on these boards so they're aware of basic features they're dropping. I don't believe 2013 will be on my wish list if it's still like this.
