I'll go see it in Cinema first week.They have cool planes, I'll watch it. I'll may Boo a cople of times when I'll see silly markings on planes or UFO like maneuvers, but I'll have fun none the less.
I also think it's not exactly true, that today's historical movies are worse than the older ones. We all seen plenty movies where they flew crop dusters and called them Stukas, so I'd rather have high quality CGI.
There's one war movie i'm looking forward to see, that claims to have very realistic "acting" and toys:
ACT OF VALOR
http://actofvalor.com/#/TRAILER
They storry could be overly dramatized, but since they are going to use real Navy SEALs, their real weapons and a lot of live ammunition, at least we won't see too much of the usual flinching hollywood actor, charging a machine gun nest with a pair of 1911's.
I beg to differ, Lucas has his own P-51... He has been a warbird fan since childhood.. and he has wanted to do this project for 20 years but no Hollywood studio would support it because it had a predominantly black cast so he funded it himself. He also rejected the first few scripts .... From what I have seen and read and I have been following this since I first heard about it in 2005, they paid a lot of attention to detail. The names have been changed .. but you can find Ben Davis (Terrance Howard..) .. you can find George "Spanky" Roberts (Cuba Gooding) whoose daughter is Robin Roberts of ABC News.. .. You can find Roscoe Brown (The P-51 doing the hammer stall onto the Me-262.. I don't know what it is in the movie .. but in real life it was "Bunnie" named after his daughter.. ) ... The markings and squadron insignia are spot on although it looks as if they are not embroidered but painted .. but they are correct. Some purists will look at things like FMs etc.. butOriginally Posted by Feathered_IV Go to original post
A)You can't tell much about FMs from a film .. it might look suspect ... but it is Hollywood.
B)There has not been one warbird movie that did not have issues with the aircraft scenes.. even the classics like DBW .. BoB .. and the original Tuskegee Airmen.
I took the day off.. I will be there @ 1000 on Friday .... I think the film will be good from what I have read and seen so far.. I can tolerate a little stretching in areas like the CGI planes (only 3 P-51s were used in the film I think... )Originally Posted by Worf101 Go to original post
They may have gotten some 322-nd P-51 markings correct, but they blew pretty much everything else.Originally Posted by Bearcat99 Go to original post
The B17-s they are escorting have markings of 8-th Airforce based in England, not those of 15-th AF based in Italy.
They engaged Me-262's of JG7 wich looked something like this:
not like this:
The Bf-109 markings are just as silly, with pre war swastika, that silly phantasy yellow horisontal band on the vertical stab, and the 3rd SS Panzer Division insignia on some planes.
You are telling me this is what someone comes up with, after years of research?
They could get this right in hours if they cared.
C'mon folks, I'm as much a stickler for detail and accuracy as anyone here but I'm not going to rip this to shreds before I've even seen it.
Be careful what you say on the internet. What may be a trivial comment to you may be deeply hurtful to another.
Some of you may be interested in this...
Star Wars creator George Lucas reveals why he is quitting blockbustersGeorge Lucas has decided that he won’t be making any more big-budget films, saying that he’ll be embarking on a "new destiny" after he takes a step back from the blockbuster movie business.
The creator of the ‘Star Wars’ franchise cites the growing animosity for him among film fans as one of the main reasons for his retirement.
“On the Internet, all those same guys that are complaining I made a change are completely changing the movie,” he told the New York Times, referencing fans who have made their own re-edits of the famous sci fi trilogy.
“I’m saying: ‘Fine. But my movie, with my name on it, that says I did it, needs to be the way I want it.’”
He’s currently promoting ‘Red Tails’ in the US - which he battled to get to the big screen and has funded himself as a consequence.
“Why would I make any more when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?”, he said, referring of course to every movie he’s been involved with since ‘The Phantom Menace’ in 1999.
“I’m moving away from the business, from the company, from all this kind of stuff.”
And..
Lucas quits blockbusters over 'all-black' movie snubGeorge Lucas has said he is retiring from making blockbusters after claiming that Hollywood refused to fund his latest movie because it has a black cast.
The creator of the Star Wars films has been working on Red Tails for 23 years, but had to finance it himself after rejections from major studios.
The film, which is released in US cinemas this week, tells the story of the Tuskegee Airmen, a group of black pilots in the Second World War.
It stars Cuba Gooding Jr and Terrence Howard, and was shot by the black director Anthony Hemingway.
Lucas, 67, said: ‘‘I figured if I could get the prints and ads paid for by the studios that they would release it. I showed it to all of them and they said, ’No. We don’t know how to market a movie like this.’
‘‘It’s because it’s an all-black movie. There’s no major white roles in it at all. It’s one of the first all-black action pictures ever made.’’
Lucas said the $US58 million budget was ‘‘reasonably expensive’’ and studios were used to movies with black casts costing less. He was also told the studios could not see a foreign market for the film.
The director said one studio’s executives did not even turn up for the screening of Red Tails.
He told the New York Times: ‘‘Isn’t their job at least to see movies? I’m retiring. I’m moving away from the business, from the company, from all this kind of stuff.’’
The film has received a mixed response from critics, who have praised its aerial dogfight scenes and "laudable" aims but say it misses the mark.
The San Francisco Chronicle said it "reduces a historical story of deep cultural significance to merely a flyboy flick," while the Green Bay Press Gazette called it "grounded by clumsy dialogue."
Another reason for Lucas' retirement appears to have been a backlash he received from fans for making changes to the original Star Wars films, including introducing extra dialogue for Darth Vader.
He said he intends to return to making experimental, low budget art house films of the kind he created as a student.
I really thought American culture and society had left this sort of thing behind a long time ago.
I guess I was wrong.
Review from New York Time Out magazine;
http://newyork.timeout.com/arts-cult...view-red-tails
and heres another;
http://www.mysanantonio.com/entertai...ls-2612512.php
I think that is intended as a clever way for even the most indifferent viewer to easily identify friend from foe in the CG action sequences. The audience can go, "This movie is called Red Tails. And those ones are yellow, so they must be the baddies... " This also removes the need to have the comedy foil character ask during briefing, "Sir, how will we kno who the enemy is?". With the slightly disdaining reply from his commander, "They are the ones with the crosses on son". An innovation over the last US potboiler, Flyboys.Originally Posted by Jaws2002 Go to original post