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Guys...guys...I`m so sorry to say this, but i feel the time has come to shed some enlightenment on your metallic or "bereted" heads.
So let me open the Bar and invite you all for a drink while i pour some savvy onto you...
To start this small prelection I have to ask that all of you grounpounders squids clerks jar heads etc..etc......ahemmm...i have to ask that you do an effort and I know that its difficult for you guys, but do give it a try and concentrate, you might even understand.
For thousands of years in the history of warfare, technological advances lead to supremacy in the battlefields, with the event of cavalry, for instance, warfare was taken to new heights in strategical and tactical capability's, which enabled a well organised army with only a small increment of a very mobile cavalry unit, to gain the upper edge by being able to outflank the enemy and therefore effectively breaking the cohesion of the enemy forces.
The advances in the Navy for instance have allowed a small nation like Portugal, to effectively conquer the seas, and make any vessel that wanted to sail on "our" oceans, to have to pay a tax named "Mare Nostrum" which was decreed by Papal Bule at the time of the treaty of Tordesillas, in which Portugal and Spain divided the world in two. At that time every resource of my country was dedicated into all the disciplines that would technically advance the Navy, we introduced the Astrolabe, the Latin sail, the Caravel AND the FIRST MARINES IN THE WORLD... amongst a multitude of new advances that transformed the tiny nation of Portugal into the World power of the time, Our navy remains undefeated to present day.
But all tho many advancements have been made to all the branches of the war, and I could go on and on....nevertheless, there was always the problem in every theater, of being able to strike deep and fast into enemy territory. To be able to locate fast advancing enemy units, supply lines, hidden forces...this has always been achieved at great personal risk of all men involved on such tasks....
AND THEN....the AIRPLANE was born !!!! ( BOW YOUR HEADS IN RESPECT)
Now here was a machine that would change forever the fate of warfare (REMEMBER PEARL HARBOUR???), could strike anyplace anywhere, appear out of nothing and wreck havoc on all unsuspecting enemy forces yet at the same time, could recon, map and transport...to name but a few.
In the Battle of Britain a small force of pilots effectively conquered the Sky's and prevented a far superior force from invading the country, in fact the bravery of those pilots led to the demise of a far superior force and gave them even the control of the enemy Sky's. ( DO NOT EVER EVER FORGET THAT GROUNDPOUNDERS)
Then i give you the Balkans...WE DID the fighting...the cleaning we left for you....Earth and Water bound creatures....you guys also have to earn you pay...
Afghanistan...remember that war??? ahhhh ok ....ahem.....the Towel Heads scattered to the four winds when the AVIATION !!! paid a visit... murderous cowards that they are.
So if we sometimes...ahem....have some...huh...technical mishaps with our beautiful machines and hit a telephone pole, the best you guys can do I guess is give us a lift...after all...what are you guys there for but to give us FLYING GODS OF WAR some support???
I could go on ....but i don't want to over feed you with information....
And just to finish....when you're in the deep s*** up to your ears who do you call??? the Calvary??? no.... we come as fast as lightning and save your sorry six....and you guys stand up and Cheer while we wiggle our wings as we move away into the sunset after having spit roasted your foes.
AIRFORCE ROCKS!!!
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I hate being 1/2 retired. 1/2 the time I am bored to death, 1/2 the time I help the wife at the flower shop, and yet somehow she finds another 1/2 to give me a chore list.....
The 'General' calls........chores it is!
And don't you squids, zoomies, or SF guys try denying it ain't the same for you....
I'll be back to the barstool as soon as I run that mower into tank trap.
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I have but one word to say to you zoomies....
Stinger.
Now, in case you dont remember just what that is, here is some education fer ya...
Stinger, shoulder fired surface to air missle.
There are other systems such as this of course, but the bottem line is that an infantry soldier can ruin your whole day, Mr. Zoomie.
Now, as for you turtles (tank crewmen) there is the Dragon, Tow, to name but 2 of the anti-armor, shoulder or infantry crewed anti-tank weapons.
So you see, people, we infantry guys still have tricks up our sleaves to deal with those such as yourselves.
And zoomies, again, just who is it that goes in and secures areas for your airfields? As I have said before, I have yet to see a fighter squadren or bomber group secure anything. I would go so far as to say that if we ground pounders were to hand you a rifle and point you in the direction of the enemy, you would be lost without a HUD to tell you when you had a target.
Now as for the company clerks. Now these men are indespensible to a ground pounding unit. When we need something, they can get it (just dont ask where they got it, how they got it, or why the seriel numbers seem to be missing.) It can also be said that the clerks know more about what is going on in a unit than the CO most of the time.
In my term of service, our company clerk managed to acquire such things as artic camo BDU's, extra radios, extra jeeps and other vehicles, booze, beer, boots, socks, booze and beer, mosquito netting, booze and beer, two M2 heavy barrel machine guns, and did I mention booze and beer?
We even had porter house and t-bone steaks for the company grillers. (we did hear rumors about the officers mess having some beef go missing)
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That is one thing I have to give the USMC/USN credit for. They still use their basic cover instead of a beret.Originally posted by jlf1961:
One final note, as for the US Army now making the Black Beret standard head gear, I feel that it has detracted from the men who made that specific item famous, the rangers, beginning with Darby's Rangers in WW2, and the SSF (Special Service Force, aka Devil's Brigade) and lest we forget, Merrell's Mauraders.
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jlf1961......Do you ground-pounders have anything to attack a sub?
Blue....and all you Zoomies. You note Pearl Harbor. I must give credit to the Jap Navy for that well coordinated attack. But it was a NAVAL attack. Naval Aviators rule out of all the Zoomies. And as I'm sure I've heard Navy pilots say to the rest of the Zoomies, "flaring is like squating to pee."
And there is nothing to secure if naval bombardment leaves nothing behind.
And lest not forget V-Day, one of the most well known invasions forces to date. A beech landing made possible with the use of Naval ships and Naval bombardment. It was though the ground-pounders that led the way up the beech to secure it for future landings. Good job gentlemen.
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Originally posted by ShadowWolf05:
jlf1961......Do you ground-pounders have anything to attack a sub?
Blue....and all you Zoomies. You note Pearl Harbor. I must give credit to the Jap Navy for that well coordinated attack. But it was a NAVAL attack. Naval Aviators rule out of all the Zoomies. And as I'm sure I've heard Navy pilots say to the rest of the Zoomies, "flaring is like squating to pee."
And there is nothing to secure if naval bombardment leaves nothing behind.
And lest not forget V-Day, one of the most well known invasions forces to date. A beech landing made possible with the use of Naval ships and Naval bombardment. It was though the ground-pounders that led the way up the beech to secure it for future landings. Good job gentlemen.Sure those ground-pounders have something to take out a sub....its called the Navy, lol
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Well, should a sub ever be developed that can travel through SOLID earth, I am sure that they will develope a countermeasure for it, but since a sub is an ocean going platform, us ground pounders really have no reason to worry about them.Originally posted by ShadowWolf05:
jlf1961......Do you ground-pounders have anything to attack a sub?
Especially the units like I was in, too small to be targeted by a cruise missle, to hard to spot by the zoomies, and when you talk about stealth, the first you realize we are in the area is when you feel the sharp edge of a knife on your throat, or your base breaking out in explosions.
So, Blue, just what good would your jet do if guys like me penatrated the security and placed about 2 pounds of C4 on your aircraft, and blew it up on the ground? Or maybe a team sets up with shoulder fired SAMs at the end of your runway?
Or maybe set up a couple of mortor tubes to rain on your parade as you try to take off?
You see, gentleman, there are is no perfect base security. There will always be gaps in the protection.
