View Poll Results: Ok, maybe I'm denser than the average dunce, (uh, maybe Luckyboy?) but how in the age of cheap, mod

Voters
43. You may not vote on this poll
  • I got stoned and I missed it.

    6 13.95%
  • The end result of allowing stupid people to breed without a permit.

    20 46.51%
  • Patch whining obviously kills brain cells.

    3 6.98%
  • Maple Tiger sure gets around.

    6 13.95%
  • Arrogant Luftwhiners are too smart to navigate.

    8 18.60%
  1. #31
    -HH-Quazi's Avatar Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    5,927
    Well, I consider Knoxville, TN. to be a fairly large metropolitan/city area. Yet at 12,000 ft., and about 5 miles north of it, I could barely distinguish it. Mind you, it was the spring of the year and the greenery was magnificent. But if the pilot hadn't of told me exactly where to look, I would have never noticed it.
    Share this post

  2. #32
    Share this post

  3. #33
    WHERE IS OUR FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I WANT TO FLY WHERE I WANT TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I WANT TO BE FREE!!!!!!!!!!!
    Share this post

  4. #34
    That article is a perfect example of how a pilot with little experience can be a safer, better pilot than more experienced and as a result arrogant pilots. Read the article and see.

    Want your freedom?

    Your freedom ends where my physical safety begins and it's not a negotiable point.
    Share this post

  5. #35
    You really have to be very stupid...if an F16 shows up it's a matter of common sense to make a 180 degrees turn!!...
    The other thing is, can a sidewider lock a cessna?...I think I wouldn't waste a sidewinder, much less an AMRAAM to shoot down a cessna...wouldn't be much cheaper half a second of the M61A1?
    Share this post

  6. #36
    Well, I can't tell you what a sidewinder can and can't lock on to... actually, yes I can, but it's still classified today.

    There are two things that people seem to forget about when considering shooting down a plane in this situation...

    1) You can blow the plane to bits and it will still have the same mass and last I heard, he was over a densely populated area.

    2) The pilot who does this shooting... I doubt the guy imagined it as part of his job description when he signed up.
    Share this post

  7. #37
    Under the circumstances, I'd rather have that same mass dispersed over a wide area rather than have it concentrated on some building like, God forbid, the White House.
    Share this post

  8. #38
    Originally posted by javierib:
    You really have to be very stupid...if an F16 shows up it's a matter of common sense to make a 180 degrees turn!!...
    The other thing is, can a sidewider lock a cessna?...I think I wouldn't waste a sidewinder, much less an AMRAAM to shoot down a cessna...wouldn't be much cheaper half a second of the M61A1?
    Later AIM-9's could in theory. These missiles are all aspect missiles. IE not just designed to be fired from a rear aspect position. Offcourse on jets the engine is a huge heat source so it does improve the chances of a hit but it could pick up the warmer airframe (due to friction etc.) against the colder background. Also the engine of a cessna still generates some heat so it would be reasonable target. I think best practice with small GA aircraft would indeed to try and use the M61A1 however above a city like DC I would be rather worried where my rounds that didnt impact went. I would be happier using an AIM-9 and limiting the damage footprint on the ground then spraying 20 mm AFPDS all over downtown DC.
    Share this post

Page 4 of 4 ◄◄  First ... 234