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    Hi All;

    Upon reading the 4.08 readme, of which I'm excited at all we're getting and the efforts of 1c on a product they'd like to be done with working on never the less. The following statement however concerns me....

    -Fixed tracer colors on the Ki-43 and Ki-61....

    Now personally, though it would be awesome and may be this way anyhow that even details like "tracer color" is correct, what I'd simply prefer more "color be darned" is the correct armament.

    Now I'm not saying they're wrong as they stand, yet the Ki-61 is mentioned as being corrected?? So just so we're all on the same page how about a quick review of those two plane types and their weapons.....(I don't post in ORR or email them anymore, so if you have contacted them about these two planes armaments please share).

    Ki-43-I-1a(sic)
    x2~Type 89, 7.7mm x 58SR
    Ki-43-I-1b(sic)
    x1~Type 89, 7.7mm x 58SR + x1~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR
    Ki-43-I-1c(sic)
    x2~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR
    Ki-43-II & III all models
    x2~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR

    Ki-61-I-Ko
    x2~Type 89, 7.7mm x 58SR Wings + x2~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR Fuselage
    Ki-61-I-Otsu
    x4~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR (2)Wings,(2)Fuselage
    Ki-61-I-Ko
    x2~Mauser 151/20, 20mm x 82 Wings + x2~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR Fuselage

    What DOES really concern me though is one of the new Ki-43-II's versions, perhaps both is that their gun "sounds" like brownings and the sound they make in the sim....SO guess we'll have to wait and see.
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    Hi All;

    Upon reading the 4.08 readme, of which I'm excited at all we're getting and the efforts of 1c on a product they'd like to be done with working on never the less. The following statement however concerns me....

    -Fixed tracer colors on the Ki-43 and Ki-61....

    Now personally, though it would be awesome and may be this way anyhow that even details like "tracer color" is correct, what I'd simply prefer more "color be darned" is the correct armament.

    Now I'm not saying they're wrong as they stand, yet the Ki-61 is mentioned as being corrected?? So just so we're all on the same page how about a quick review of those two plane types and their weapons.....(I don't post in ORR or email them anymore, so if you have contacted them about these two planes armaments please share).

    Ki-43-I-1a(sic)
    x2~Type 89, 7.7mm x 58SR
    Ki-43-I-1b(sic)
    x1~Type 89, 7.7mm x 58SR + x1~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR
    Ki-43-I-1c(sic)
    x2~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR
    Ki-43-II & III all models
    x2~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR

    Ki-61-I-Ko
    x2~Type 89, 7.7mm x 58SR Wings + x2~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR Fuselage
    Ki-61-I-Otsu
    x4~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR (2)Wings,(2)Fuselage
    Ki-61-I-Ko
    x2~Mauser 151/20, 20mm x 82 Wings + x2~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR Fuselage

    What DOES really concern me though is one of the new Ki-43-II's versions, perhaps both is that their gun "sounds" like brownings and the sound they make in the sim....SO guess we'll have to wait and see.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEBillfish:
    Hi All;

    Upon reading the 4.08 readme, of which I'm excited at all we're getting and the efforts of 1c on a product they'd like to be done with working on never the less. The following statement however concerns me....

    -Fixed tracer colors on the Ki-43 and Ki-61....

    Now personally, though it would be awesome and may be this way anyhow that even details like "tracer color" is correct, what I'd simply prefer more "color be darned" is the correct armament.

    Now I'm not saying they're wrong as they stand, yet the Ki-61 is mentioned as being corrected?? So just so we're all on the same page how about a quick review of those two plane types and their weapons.....(I don't post in ORR or email them anymore, so if you have contacted them about these two planes armaments please share).

    Ki-43-I-1a(sic)
    x2~Type 89, 7.7mm x 58SR
    Ki-43-I-1b(sic)
    x1~Type 89, 7.7mm x 58SR + x1~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR
    Ki-43-I-1c(sic)
    x2~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR
    Ki-43-II & III all models
    x2~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR

    Ki-61-I-Ko
    x2~Type 89, 7.7mm x 58SR Wings + x2~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR Fuselage
    Ki-61-I-Otsu
    x4~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR (2)Wings,(2)Fuselage
    Ki-61-I-Ko
    x2~Mauser 151/20, 20mm x 82 Wings + x2~Ho-103, 12.7mm x 81SR Fuselage

    What DOES really concern me though is one of the new Ki-43-II's versions, perhaps both is that their gun "sounds" like brownings and the sound they make in the sim....SO guess we'll have to wait and see. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    the Typ89 MGs of the Ki-61Ko, Ki43-Ia&b were changed to yellow tracers.
    i BELIVE that they are now like the Typ 97 MGs of the A6M........... so, close to none (if at all) incendary rounds. i think they are based on the german MG15 in gameengine (ok, IL2 compare says that ).
    = less firepower

    the Ki-27s are still firing red tracers, even with the same guns , historicaly
    well ,the D3A and the A6M2 should have the same noseguns - also not in game

    the Ki-43-II has now yellow tracer Ho-103 = less firepower

    AND very nice , new Default skins the Oscar II have now
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    Did the Ki-43-II sounds change to match others in the sim?
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEBillfish:
    Did the Ki-43-II sounds change to match others in the sim? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Ho-103, as i said.
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