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We all know several online squads use the designation's of historical squadrons, which is fine and understandable. Now, the other day I was flying around and there was a fella by the name of Jv44_Galland. He was an obvious fan of the real life pilot. Now another fella from the online JV44 squad was grilling this guy, telling him he had to drop the Jv44 from his name because he didnt get permission from the squad. I would like to know what methods these JV44 members used to get permission for THEM to use the squadron name. Were they assigned to the squad by Georing? A couple of other squad members (JG27, III something or other) obviously diagreed with me. So, please tell me, how is what you guys are doing any different from what this fella was doing? One squad memeber tried telling me its because JV44 was an established online squad. The squad was established in WWII, and you cant claim ownership over it. If you dont want someone to use the same designation as you, come up with something unique.
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We all know several online squads use the designation's of historical squadrons, which is fine and understandable. Now, the other day I was flying around and there was a fella by the name of Jv44_Galland. He was an obvious fan of the real life pilot. Now another fella from the online JV44 squad was grilling this guy, telling him he had to drop the Jv44 from his name because he didnt get permission from the squad. I would like to know what methods these JV44 members used to get permission for THEM to use the squadron name. Were they assigned to the squad by Georing? A couple of other squad members (JG27, III something or other) obviously diagreed with me. So, please tell me, how is what you guys are doing any different from what this fella was doing? One squad memeber tried telling me its because JV44 was an established online squad. The squad was established in WWII, and you cant claim ownership over it. If you dont want someone to use the same designation as you, come up with something unique.
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I'll tell you why the lad shouldn't use an online squadrons' designation. Respect, plain and simple. This virtual online world hasn't been around since WWII, but it has been around for many years. And alot of these squadrons have been around for quite sometime too. And if for no other reason, respect for the effort and longevity of each and every member of all virtual online squads should be sufficient reason enough not to use an online squadrons' designation for personal playtime. Of course, this is my personal, humbled opinion.
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if it was a jv44 server,it was bad taste if not
he should be free to use what ever he wants,cheers.
After it was refeuled i climbed in.With many manipulations the mechcanics started the turbines.I followed their actions with the greatest of interest.The first one started quite easily.the second caught fire.In no time the whole engine was on fire.Luckily as a fighter pilot i was used to getting quickly out of the cockpit.The fire was quickly put out.The second plane caused no trouble - Adolf Galland (first time in a ME262)
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It's all part of the virtual pilots online etiquette. You will find that many "squadrons" were established when virtual combat in the skies took flight. Some are registered and sanctioned by the particular airforce/squadron they represent. Some are registered online as is the case in CFS 1 with the RAF, RCAF, DD, etc. It is a matter of respect that a nonmember does not "fly the colors" of an established virtual squad without being a member first. Most knowledgable simmers are aware of this and abide by the unwritten rule. Some, however, do not respect the ways of virtual flight and ignore it. It is up to you whether you respect the established norm or not.
Hope this clears things up a bit.
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My "tag" on HyperLobby is [412]IceFire which represents my current favorite Canadian squadron during WWII. However, I did this tag this way so as not to confuse with the well organized and established #401RCAF_ (and other numbers as well) squadron that commonly flies.
The idea is to not be confused with representing something that you are not part of. I would never, even if it was my favorite, wear a JV44 tag (unless I was with the squad) and if I did then I'd ensure that other symbols/characters were present to distinguish myself from another squadron (and I don't consider case changes to be sufficient).
Courtesy, respect, clarity...good reasons to distinguish yourself online.
RCAF 412 Falcon Squadron - "Swift to Avenge"
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You know what, I really see no problem here... That fellow is not obligated to follow their rules.
Use whatever name u wan't. That's my opinion. If someone have problem with it, do not fly in his squad. Simply as that.
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I could see their point if he was flying on that squads server, so that people would not be confused to if he was part of that squadron.
Outside of their server... he can call himself what he wants. The squad can whine and cry and throw their toys out of the pram.. but who cares. A "squad" is just a bunch of collective guys playing a game.
They don't own that name at all even if they are a "prestigous" (sp?) online squadron.
Permission my a$$, those mofos dont own the rights, and hell they aren't even the real squadron themselves.
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Hello,
My Two cents on this entire thread is quite simple. Every player has the right to fly under whatever name they wish. As was said earlier it isan unwritten rule and respectful to the squadrons already using the tag. If it was written exactly as that squadron has it then I would have aporblem with it.
Case in point, 2 squadrons that I know of call themselves "The Blacksheep Squadron" Hence different designations. One of the squadrons grilled the one having the same title but different designations. Well it all fair, the squadron that was grilling the other squadron became irate and started to harrass the other. Needless to say if you have a squadron or designation that is different I dont see an issue with it.
See with my squadron, I have the name all the images and all the content on my website copyrighted. If someone uses anything from there they will be in a world of trouble. On top of that my squadron has been recognized by the US Marines.
Interesting enough, there is something out there called pilot and online etiquette. If they dont abide by it then thats no fault on the original squadron of that designation.
It is all common sense guys.
S! Viper
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I'm a proud member of the 310thVFS. I wear my name and colors proudly and when in "uniform" I repersent my squadron. Anything and everything I do reflects on the squad. For this reason as well as respect I would never wear anyone elses colors.