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    1C: Maddox Games, I purchased Pacific Fighters the day it was released at my local EBGames store to add to my ACE installation. Unfortunately, my copmputer was not working at the time due to a power supply that took out many boards and the diagnostic and repair and rMA cycle was quite long. As a result, I was not able to install PF until the day the 3.04 patch was released. I followed the instructions and installed it on a computer that was NOT overclocked on the video card or CPU or anywhere else for that matter and although it was not in your instructions, due to the computer repair, it was installed on a freshly formatted hard drive 0 RAID array and all the latest/and or best drivers for this game and for my particular hardware were installed in the correct order. I have played less than 30 hours since the installation, but have found no major bugs or problems as some have reported. I play online with a bunch of guys who are having problems, but all of the people having problems that I play online with also installed the game on an overclocked CPU or the video card or both. The only player who does not overclock has not had these major problems. After the installation process and some brief testing, I have overclocked to levels reasonable for my PC and have had no problems with the game.

    I'm not saying everyone who is having problems is also overclocking. However, some are using PC2700 RAM or even 2100 RAM in a computer designed for 3200 RAM and many have inadequate power service to the computer for a host of reasons. Then there are those who have not attended to cooling issues. I guess there are others who have problems who do not fall into one or more of these groups. In fact, I would be quite surprised to hear that there were not. After all, with this game pushing the limits of the code design and all the possible combinations of hardware, software and how the PC's are operated I am amazed there are not more problems. All I know is that I am beyond being very pleased with your efforts. The game is everything I hoped it would be and more. I have not had time to pick apart small things, but for such an enormous undertaking, you have done quite well.

    They are starting to beg for BoB in the General forum now, but somehow, I can't seem to get excited about BoB. even if it does many wonderfull things, it still will be a limited theatre of operation WWII flight sim game and at this point, I am not all that interested in buying it. I would willingly give $40.00 U.S for a copy of each of these possible add-ons...

    1) Meditteranean Add-on

    2) A flyable 4 engine bomber expansion pack with the B-17, B-29 Lancaster and PE-8 made flyable. Yes, I would pay $10.00 a plane to see these planes made flyable. Your company is missing out big on an untapped market of people who would buy into the whole series when these planes were made flyable.

    3) An China/India/Burma/Manchurian Add-on including Korea.

    Yes, I would happily fork over a total of $120.00 for these three add-ons to the current game and feel most of us would as well. After all, there was no IL-2 or TB-3 in the Battle of Brittain!

    Don't let the small minds out there who complain no matter what you do get you down. I know you once said something like it is easier to say a thing than to make a thing, but with as well as you have done on Pacific fighters, you make it seem almost easy!
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    Its time to move on to the new engine. This one is done. I personally would not be willing to pay for more addons. I bought PF sole for loyalty reasons. I never play Pacific Missions -- neither do most people. Check the lobby lately? I understand your desire to see the new ships and especially the Med Theatre, my personal fave too. The fact is, this game engine is 5 years old, that is ancient in the gaming world. Its time to move on. With respect, I feel you are in the minority on this one.
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    I would like to see more addons to the IL2 series, especially a flyable bombers addon, and a PTO/CBI/etc addon... indeed, PF is lacking "contents" badly....

    I think the IL2 engine is not bad at all, even you rate it using today's standard. You see, how many of you guys can run the game in perfect/water=3?

    I think Oleg can still use it for another 2 years.... I won't mind, and would even encourge, Oleg to stick with this engine and release "several" addons, earn some easy money to better milk their BoB....we can wait if Oleg keep releasing new content to the IL2 series.

    to summarize, my suggestion is, 2 - 3 more addons for IL2, BoB push to Q4 2006.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HelSqnProtos:
    Its time to move on to the new engine. This one is done. I personally would not be willing to pay for more addons. I bought PF sole for loyalty reasons. I never play Pacific Missions -- neither do most people. Check the lobby lately? I understand your desire to see the new ships and especially the Med Theatre, my personal fave too. The fact is, this game engine is 5 years old, that is ancient in the gaming world. Its time to move on. With respect, I feel you are in the minority on this one. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    With respect how do you know did you take a poll? You are only taklking about online. Offline is what most players play. I play both Pacific and ETO missions and know many others as well. There is still quite a bit to be added here. Certainly I wish to see the next step, changing weather and larger battles and of course the med. Just disagreed with your assumption.
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    I would also rather see Oleg and Company move onto BOB. Perhaps they could lisence the Il2 engine to a reputable third part developer and they could continue to produce addons for the series while Oleg works on the new engine. I definitely think there would still be a market for Il2 addons but I really hope they move on to BOB sooner rather than later.
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    Just wanted to say that the reason I got turned on to the Oleg Maddox sims was because of Pacific Fighters.

    I would also like to see addons and improvements to the Pacific Fighters sim, even pay addons would be fine to me because Oleg would be able to generate more renenue with addon planes and ships, perhaps an improved campaign engine, and offset the losses he had with pirating of PF copies.

    As well as using PF to experiment with features he may want to include into the upcoming BoB engine, I think it could be a win-win situation for everyone.

    I definately vote to see more Pacific Fighters addons, to be honest the Battle of Britain isn't interesting to all of us, even if it has a better engine. Oleg is creating something for everyone though. Those of us who like the Pacific just got our sim only 3 months ago, and I'm sure many would like to see it get the same treatment IL2FB and AEP got in regards to addons and support. It is a standalone product like IL2FB afterall.
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    To me, this is NOT a BoB VS. IL-2 debate. I think people fear that there isn't enough Oleg to go around and that he sits alone in a sub-basement of some leaky building punching code! Remember, it is 1C Maddox games and there are other people working.I do not think continuing to work on IL-2 will substantially delay BoB.

    As far as the game code goes... care to show a specific example of how any new code would improve the game and exactly how it would do it? Or would it be just more pixel shader 3.0?!
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    Ach..IL-2 just needs more features. Like object viewer in arming screen with all the supercharger set altitudes (I hate guessing the altitude). More field of vision and the ability to lean to make full real servers playble. Full real is horrible to play. Very inconvenient, but so popular. :F In some planes, you can't even see all the instruments because you can't lean! That is horrible. You only see half of the clock in 109..was it K4. And I think it is Yak1b possibly where you don't see the compass! So you have the heading in the speed bar, lucky.. Not sure of that one. But these small things... Oh and the Russians don't have proper fighter-bomber in my opinion. 109s and 190s carry 500kg. What do the russians have? Mostly 100-250 kg ****! Even the Yak-9B doesn't get 500+ kg bomb for that extra something to drop at the enemy ships (you get 4x100kg, so it should be able to carry 500kg, really!). IL-2 also carries 100kg-250kg bombs or so.

    Personally I am not looking forward to BoB. The reason: Spitfires and Hurricanes are..BORING!!! Ok so I felt Yaks were boring some time ago, but they are no longer overmodelled (they used to be godly or was it that we didn't have La7, Ki84, SpitIX and other uber..), thus fun, and now I think they are cool + aerodynamic looking. But not so with Spits and Hurris. Neveer. I hate them! Boring boring boring! I like eastern front!!

    BoB needs to be very immersive. I want to see a zeppelin. I can always count on Bf-109E, too. :P
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lukki:
    More field of vision and the ability to lean to make full real servers playble. Full real is horrible to play. Very inconvenient, but so popular. :F In some planes, you can't even see all the instruments because you can't lean! That is horrible. You only see half of the clock in 109..was it K4. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Unfortunately I doubt this will ever be fixed in the Il2 series because the cockpits aren't complete enough. They only look finished from a certain view point, once you start moving the point of view there is all sorts of missing stuff.
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