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    I thought that this link maybe of interest. 72 RAF bombers shot down in one night over Germany. Not unusual.

    Possibly more RAF crew lost in this one night than in the whole Battle of Britain in 1940??

    It's perhaps unfortunate that the sacrifices of RAF Bomber Command have never been recognised due to politcal considerations. The sacrifices of the US Bomber crews have been justifiably recognised but both countries were doing the same job.

    http://news.scotsman.com/internation...?id=1839482005

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    I thought that this link maybe of interest. 72 RAF bombers shot down in one night over Germany. Not unusual.

    Possibly more RAF crew lost in this one night than in the whole Battle of Britain in 1940??

    It's perhaps unfortunate that the sacrifices of RAF Bomber Command have never been recognised due to politcal considerations. The sacrifices of the US Bomber crews have been justifiably recognised but both countries were doing the same job.

    http://news.scotsman.com/internation...?id=1839482005

    (I hope the link works!)

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    MB_Avro
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    Not exactly a dream posting. Just been reading Armageddon by Max Hastings - Bomber Command crews were more likely to be killed than to survive a tour of duty.
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    IRRC, 51,000 KILLED of just over 100,000 men total in Bomber Command. To me, that's an absolutely astounding figure. To have that percentage total casualties would have been bad enough, but that number dead?

    Btw, why have they always called them casualties--doesn't seem that there is anything casual about it at all!
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    Maybe my post is OT but perhaps it helps to illustrate the carnage and sacrifice that aircrews endured.

    Interesting but depressing post by Saunders above that over 50% of RAF bomber crews were killed in WW2.This must make it the highest casualty group of British forces in WW2?

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    Them and merchant marine crews on Atlantic Convoys. Pertinently one of my Grandads was a Halifax pilot, the other a crewman on a merchantman. Both survived.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:
    Maybe my post is OT but perhaps it helps to illustrate the carnage and sacrifice that aircrews endured.

    Interesting but depressing post by Saunders above that over 50% of RAF bomber crews were killed in WW2.This must make it the highest casualty group of British forces in WW2?

    Best Regards,
    MB_Avro </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    That's correct.

    'Among every 100 RAF Bomber Command aircrew in the course of the war, 51 died on operations, 9 were lost in crashes in England, 3 seriously injured, 12 were taken prisoner, 1 was shot down and avoided capture, and just 24 completed a tour of operations.'

    Armageddon - Max Hastings. Macmillan Publishing, 2004.
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    Those casualty figures are certainly horrific.
    Really makes you think about the futility of it all and quite a reality check after potting around in sims.
    These men are long overdue for their own proper memorial.
    Have any petitions been put forward to the government to have one established?
    If not, then perhaps one could be organised.

    Surely its the very least that could be done for them.
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    they didnt even get a campaign medal

    flying bombers was very dangerous, a german who was captured in norway, everyone in his squadron died in the war.

    many men also cracked under the pressure, entirely unstandable
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    Their average was 22.

    A few links that may be of interest.

    http://www.rafbombercommand.com/


    http://www.lancastermuseum.ca/memorialgranite.html

    http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/cemetery_details.aspx?cemetery=109600&mode=1

    This thread has so far proved respectful to an emotive issue. Please, let's keep it that way and treat the story of these young men as a symbol of what can happen when the lunatics take over the asylum.
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