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Am i wrong? I am far less knowlegable on the pacific and other nations subs, correct me if i'm wrong and i'm happy to learn
No, .....Your generalization is actually pretty good. In the Pacific War, the U.S. Navy started out the War by having their butt handed to them at Pearl Harbor.
In December of 1941, almost half of the U.S. Submarine Fleet was comprised of obsolescent, WWI vintage boats; ....And the other half was equipped with the WORST torpedo known to man! (.....At least since the days when the word "Torpedo" meant a keg of black powder lashed to a spar!!)
Yup! .....The Pacific War started off really hard, and then got progressively easier.
klcarroll
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Originally posted by klcarroll:
I’ve said it before in other threads, …..And I guess I’ll repeat it again here:
IT’S A GAME!!!, …….Nothing more – nothing less! ......And anyone who really believes that they have to “Buy Into” the 70 year old politics, philosophies, and practices of one side or the other in order to play a submarine simulation is putting FAR too much into it.
Playing a simulation from the point of view of the Axis will no more make you an “Anti-Semitic Baby Killer” than playing “for the Allies” will make you a “Blessed Savior of Civilization”!
(…Does playing “Black” in a chess game make you a “Bad Guy”????)
The games in question are simply good simulations: …..Enjoy them for what they are, and forget about the politics!!
klcarroll
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Me thinks that Herr 'optionstrader's religious upbringing may have something to do with his feels toward the Nazi rejime.
Also, I don't know how anyone would believe that had the Nazis won their doctrin would have survived much past the mid '50s, certainly not to now.
Lastly, I prefer SH3 because the Uboats are so superior to the allied effort's. The US boats might just as well have been converted destroyers as they can stay submerged about as long and as deep without sinking.
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you can do it two ways....
Forgive, but not forget...
Or just let history be history. There are lessons learned from all we have done as humans.....but if we realy have to stick to history and remember...well...
All those africans we dragged all over the world....
The spanish slaughter in south america....
Stalins slaughter of hes own people....
The Brittish way of handeling the colonial places...
The supression of the native Americans....
The crusades...
The vikings and there slaughter....
The list is gigantic.......so do we play a gme for what it is or should we look into history to se "how great" we westeners are....
Geeezzz....its a freaking game...pixels....
Flying sims, 109 ftw
sailing subs, German...
Sailships....pirate...
oooh im a baaaad person....lol
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Originally posted by klcarroll:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Flying sims, 109 ftw
sailing subs, German...
Sailships....pirate...
oooh im a baaaad person....lol
Yup!! ....And I like to play "Black" in a game of Chess! (...It matches the color of my heart.)
klcarroll </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
So you DO have a heart then???.....lol
Maverick
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^^Originally posted by klcarroll:
I’ve said it before in other threads, …..And I guess I’ll repeat it again here:
IT’S A GAME!!!, …….Nothing more – nothing less! ......And anyone who really believes that they have to “Buy Into” the 70 year old politics, philosophies, and practices of one side or the other in order to play a submarine simulation is putting FAR too much into it.
Playing a simulation from the point of view of the Axis will no more make you an “Anti-Semitic Baby Killer” than playing “for the Allies” will make you a “Blessed Savior of Civilization”!
(…Does playing “Black” in a chess game make you a “Bad Guy”????)
The games in question are simply good simulations: …..Enjoy them for what they are, and forget about the politics!!
klcarroll
The voice of logic.
And thank god!
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Are you guys serious!?? Get over your self righteous nonsense and post something useful for a change!
The only reason this is still going on is all the little egos that need a platform of higher morales to look down on others from so you don't have to feel bad about being a complete dweeb.
If you want an example of morality, if we all play games that deal with killing content does that make us murderers? Not really, right?
So, playing Germans, or Arabs or Imperials, or Deamons should not indicate a harbouring of a morality that is ascribed to that faction.
If you really felt bad about the war at all, you would be helping the survivors of either side get past the horror of it, instead of sitting in your chair taking umbrage at something you know very little about.
Now can the crap and lets discuss a game we are all looking forward to playing, as continuing this strain of idealism only makes you a hypocrite.
