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This point is only relevant if Ubisoft solely market the SH game series to Europe. Otherwise..... you forgot about the other 5,500,000,000 potential customers?
I rather imagine that UBISOFT already has a pretty good idea of what kind of sales numbers their various marketing areas generate.
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This point is only relevant if Ubisoft solely market the SH game series to Europe. Otherwise..... you forgot about the other 5,500,000,000 potential customers? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by JBG84:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ducimus_Rapax:
Anything dealing with the pacific war must be a hard sell in Europe and the UK. It's half a world away, and historically speaking, nobody's had any signficant involvement or no involvement at all. So interest in the PTO must be next to nill
Unfortunately, its still relevant. While i don't have the numbers in front of me, im going to hazard a guess that Uboats sell better even in the US. I've seen far too many people on messageboards that are from the US, that know next to nothing about US fleet submarines or the PTO. Which doesn't surprise me since ive met people IRL who do not even know why we celebrate the 4th of july. No joke. Which leads me to beleive that too many people only know what they've seen in movies.
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This point is only relevant if Ubisoft solely market the SH game series to Europe. Otherwise..... you forgot about the other 5,500,000,000 potential customers? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Ducimus_Rapax:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JBG84:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ducimus_Rapax:
Anything dealing with the pacific war must be a hard sell in Europe and the UK. It's half a world away, and historically speaking, nobody's had any signficant involvement or no involvement at all. So interest in the PTO must be next to nill
Unfortunately, its still relevant. While i don't have the numbers in front of me, im going to hazard a guess that Uboats sell better even in the US. I've seen far too many people on messageboards that are from the US, that know next to nothing about US fleet submarines or the PTO. Which doesn't surprise me since ive met people IRL who do not even know why we celebrate the 4th of july. No joke. Which leads me to beleive that too many people only know what they've seen in movies. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The US fleet boats of SH 4 sold ok in Europe.
Prefering U-boats as i do i still bought and played Sh 4. It was still a good game.
No reason why people all over the world interested in subs won't buy the next SH game as they did with the previous versions.
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I don't think politics really mattered much to most of the extremely young men crammed in a metal tube in terrible dank conditions in the Atlantic. Except for maybe cursing those politics that put them there. Not counting Luth :P
And Ducky is right, Pacific doesn't get as much attention in any media as the Euro theatre does. I've always assumed it was because the fighting seemed so nasty in the Pacific, between the horrors of the jungle, and the particularly nasty fighting. Its almost as if popular media portrays the Euro theatre as a Chivalrous knight fight, black armoured jouster against the White Knight.
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Well that's a relief! I've been worried sick for the last few years that my enjoyment of bratwurst and beer might be seen as un-patriotic.Playing a simulation from the point of view of the Axis will no more make you an “Anti-Semitic Baby Killer” than playing “for the Allies” will make you a “Blessed Savior of Civilization”!
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Bernard on the other hand, is continously writing reports to BdU that my addiction to rocky road icecream proves that I am disloyal to the Ubootwaffe.
I mean SERIOUSLY! I may not be allowed to serve in either simulated submarine fleet!
I like Earl grey tea too... but I dare not tell anyone. I may find myself running supplies to Malta in a U-Class submarine in Her Majesty's Royal Navy...
... which would make things REALLY complicated when they find that I also like lasagna and veal parmesian with a good bottle of red... because I'd be sent to La Spezia to sail with Bernard's brother "Bernardo Franchetti Angelico Scarpace-Martinucci" ...and the whole miserable process would begin again when I'm found eating bratwurst... and am required to leave for the Ubootwaffe for conduct unbecoming of a fascist!
Its a good thing I don't like sake! I'd simply have to draw the line if I was asked to command a Kaiten. It just wouldn't work out for me you see?
So as I said... Its quite a relief... especially to know that I shouldn't wake up one day craving baby-meat barbeque!
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Does any one actually have a breakdown of the sales numbers or press relaeases from UBI that substantiates the U-boat games have in fact sold better historically? If you could post them I'd really like to see how much of a difference there is.Originally posted by Ducimus_Rapax:
While i don't have the numbers in front of me, im going to hazard a guess that Uboats sell better even in the US.
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Does any one actually have a breakdown of the sales numbers or press relaeases from UBI that substantiates the U-boat games have in fact sold better historically? If you could post them I'd really like to see how much of a difference there is. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Nuc344:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ducimus_Rapax:
While i don't have the numbers in front of me, im going to hazard a guess that Uboats sell better even in the US.
It's probably not just that though, releasing another Pacific game when the last one was pacific may impact on the new games sales aswell. Not to mention all the people moaning that they wern't doing anything new
Would it make practical sales sense to release another Pacific game when SH4 isn't that old and still looks pretty darn good? Why would people that have SH4 pay out for a game that wasn't much of a step up from the one they have?
So you can't just compare SH3 sales to that of 4. There's alot more to take into account.
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Well Im from Denmark. And if Germany won the war. I wood have a picture of Hitler in my room and probely wood I speek better Germen.
Germans are not bad guys. And I love Germany. Its time to forgive and not forget.
Im happy that silent hunter 5 agian is on the Axis site. and the reason is that the axis U-boat are cool! simpel as that. And no matter how good you are to sinking ships in the game you can not chenge the war in the game.
ohh by the way, my favorit movie is ofcause "Das Boot"
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I think a point a lot of people don't seem to be seeing is that the battle of the atlantic fits perfectly into general game mechanics.
It starts off easy and gets harder the longer you play your campaign, whereas with an Allied point of view it will be more towards the opposite.
The new equipment (schnorkle, rader warning devices) in SH3 helps you survive, in SH4 it just gives you more of an advantage.
Am i wrong? I am far less knowlegable on the pacific and other nations subs, correct me if i'm wrong and i'm happy to learn
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