Mistakenly, posted this in the new hardware thread.
I'm putting together a quick upgrade until a 64-bit system. Spending a few hundred bucks and was deciding on a processor.
Currently, XP3200 ~$140.00...my question is, because XP2500s are becoming scarce, has anybody upped the FSB on a higher core, like a 2600 or 2800(333)? Will be using NForce2 Ultra 400 mobo.
Since the bus multis are locked in AthlonXPs, I'm talking about going above XP3200 specs and just wondered what to expect from the chipset, in terms of CPU identification and maybe some testimony on overall core stability at this time in the stepping. Thanks.
I'm not sure how the faster athlons do, but my Nforce2 U400 can only do about 205-210 FSB max and stay stable (with the XP2500). You should be able to get 200 FSB easily with good cooling. With the 12.5 multiplier on the 2800, that would give you 2500 Mhz. If it won't do that, it will at least have some headroom to lower the multi to 12 or 11.5, which is still faster than the XP3200 (at 200 FSB).
Thanks for the reply. I figured I might have some room, but bus multis are locked these days. Last I read, there wasn't a way to unlock them anymore either. I'd have to stay with the default multi of either a 2600 or 2800.
I'd just hate to get an XP2600(333) that wouldn't dance on a 400FSB. But, it's only a small multi jump over an XP2500, so it's probably doable with the current cores available.
I was more curious how the chipset recognizes the CPU. For instance if it was an XP2600(333) 166 * 11.5 multi that I go to 200 * 11.5 = 2.3GHz, does it just show as an XP3200 running at the faster speed?
Well, I thought that mulitipliers are only locked above the maximum and you could still adjust them lower if needed. But, I just tried setting mine lower to 10 and it wouldn't boot, so I'm not sure.
If the FSB or multi is adjusted manually, the BIOS will recognize it as an athlon at "X GHz", for example, mine is set to 11x200 and windows reports it as:
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) , MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz
OR
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 10 Stepping 0 AuthenticAMD ~2205 Mhz
My BIOS also has an option to set it as an XP2500 or XP3200. When set to one of these, it will report is as being either CPU, specifically.
OK, thanks for the info W_M.Originally posted by Weather_Man:
Well, I thought that mulitipliers are only locked above the maximum and you could still adjust them lower if needed. But, I just tried setting mine lower to 10 and it wouldn't boot, so I'm not sure.
If the FSB or multi is adjusted manually, the BIOS will recognize it as an athlon at "X GHz", for example, mine is set to 11x200 and windows reports it as:
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) , MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz
OR
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 10 Stepping 0 AuthenticAMD ~2205 Mhz
My BIOS also has an option to set it as an XP2500 or XP3200. When set to one of these, it will report is as being either CPU, specifically.
I know B16Enk has his XP2800+ OC'd to 3200+ working along side PC3200 RAM.
Bet ya anything he's got his feet up ignoring this thread!
I would love to convince someone to let me play with their XP2800+ chip but I know it aint gonna happen.
I'm pretty sure both users are running MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR but B16 will tell ya more. Fingers-crossed
Yes, I noticed that Hunter. Newegg doesn't even have any XP2500s.Originally posted by Hunter82:
Most Bartons are becoming very scarce. I just removed all the bartons from my website as they were no longer able to be had in a normal amount of time with regular stock orders.
Also distributors were raising prices due to supply/demand....gotta love it.
If I may inquire, Hunter, what has been your experience using an XP2600 or XP2800(333) core to overclock to a 400MHz FSB?
Should I stick with an XP2500, which is still available from ZipZoomFly.com or do you think I stand a good chance of overclocking the faster cores using air-cooling, as in an XP2500?
Ah, OK BBloke. Get B16 on the horn and get him to post in this thread!!!Originally posted by BBloke:
I know B16Enk has his XP2800+ OC'd to 3200+ working along side PC3200 RAM.
Bet ya anything he's got his feet up ignoring this thread!
I would love to convince someone to let me play with their XP2800+ chip but I know it aint gonna happen.
I'm pretty sure both users are running MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR but B16 will tell ya more. Fingers-crossed![]()
2I've used a 2800 and it clocked fairly decent on air but the 2800 and 3200's tend to reqire more voltage than the 2500 for OC. Remember the 2500 is generally nothing more than a 2800 that failed 2800 qualification lol. The 2600 I would stay far away from for OC. The 2800 usually can clock easily to 3200 speeds.
Yes, I noticed that Hunter. Newegg doesn't even have any XP2500s.Originally posted by SlickStick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hunter82:
Most Bartons are becoming very scarce. I just removed all the bartons from my website as they were no longer able to be had in a normal amount of time with regular stock orders.
Also distributors were raising prices due to supply/demand....gotta love it.
If I may inquire, Hunter, what has been your experience using an XP2600 or XP2800(333) core to overclock to a 400MHz FSB?
Should I stick with an XP2500, which is still available from ZipZoomFly.com or do you think I stand a good chance of overclocking the faster cores using air-cooling, as in an XP2500? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>