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    Scilya's Avatar Junior Member
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    i loved game manuals i used to buy the game then go read the manual over a subway's or something XD
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    Originally posted by Scilya:
    i loved game manuals i used to buy the game then go read the manual over a subway's or something XD
    They are a bit to small to be seen reading in public. I would have to conseal it in a copy of War and Peace or even some sort of pornographic material. Anything but have people see me reading a tiny little manual!
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    I see the point that both sides are trying to make and I'm afraid some of you have already started taking shots at each other for a silly, silly reason.

    The fact of the matter is that Ubisoft is taking a chance on doing this. People like dennis will hate the decision, and eco-friendly folks will love it. In the meantime Ubi is saving some $$ by not having to print the manuals.

    So:

    A = Dennis and his kind
    B = Eco-Friendly folks

    If there are more B than A, Ubi wins. If there are more A than B, and the amount of business they will lose from A is less than the cost of printing the manuals, Ubi wins.

    Only if there are more A than B, AND the cost of printing manuals is less than the amount of business that they're going to lose from A, will Ubi lose.

    So as you can see it's a pretty easy decision. For folks who want a strategy guide/manual for RUSE, check out:

    BattleStrats RUSE Manual & Strategy Guide
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    Originally posted by krazycarl:
    I see the point that both sides are trying to make and I'm afraid some of you have already started taking shots at each other for a silly, silly reason.

    The fact of the matter is that Ubisoft is taking a chance on doing this. People like dennis will hate the decision, and eco-friendly folks will love it. In the meantime Ubi is saving some $$ by not having to print the manuals.

    So:

    A = Dennis and his kind
    B = Eco-Friendly folks

    If there are more B than A, Ubi wins. If there are more A than B, and the amount of business they will lose from A is less than the cost of printing the manuals, Ubi wins.

    Only if there are more A than B, AND the cost of printing manuals is less than the amount of business that they're going to lose from A, will Ubi lose.
    I don't think you understand the nature of the problem. The enviromental issue an excuse, not a reason. How could a manual, taking up a negligible amount of paper, have a significant effect relative to the game itself; which I would be running on a power hungry PC?

    On the other hand you do have a point, the masses will think this is a eco-friendly idea, not realising the much grander scale of regular eco-friendliness (even the act of sorting your rubbish would dwarf this).

    I obviously perfer to have a manual than not have a manual, but I'd hardly say its a massive issue, just unhelpful and 'less'. It's plainly ridiculous at the end when you say people will actual not buy the game if they dont get a manual.
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    I don't see anything wrong with omitting manuals or having a digital copy. Honestly it seems like a smart idea.
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    I don't think you understand the nature of the problem. The enviromental issue an excuse, not a reason. How could a manual, taking up a negligible amount of paper, have a significant effect relative to the game itself; which I would be running on a power hungry PC?
    Rockefeller saved a ton of money and metal by removing a single screw from all his oil barrels. Removing a small booklet from literally millions of games has a similar impact. If a booklet is, say, 10 grams, then selling a million copies of any certain game, that'll mean that 10,000 kg of wood are saved. Keep in mind that Ubisoft is a huge company and has multiple franchises, so the amount of wood ubisoft saves is actually significant.
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    Originally posted by esiex3:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I don't think you understand the nature of the problem. The enviromental issue an excuse, not a reason. How could a manual, taking up a negligible amount of paper, have a significant effect relative to the game itself; which I would be running on a power hungry PC?
    Rockefeller saved a ton of money and metal by removing a single screw from all his oil barrels. Removing a small booklet from literally millions of games has a similar impact. If a booklet is, say, 10 grams, then selling a million copies of any certain game, that'll mean that 10,000 kg of wood are saved. Keep in mind that Ubisoft is a huge company and has multiple franchises, so the amount of wood ubisoft saves is actually significant. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    But paper manuals don't use power once they are made. Surely one could argue that power is saved by having paper manuals due to the fact that once your in the game you don't waste additional power by learning it.

    Though energy saving at this level becomes extremely subjective, like for example; if everybody exhaled one time less per-day there would be slightly better air quality, but it would be a drop in the water compared to just breeding less cows...
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    Originally posted by Gypsy816:
    I don't see anything wrong with omitting manuals or having a digital copy. Honestly it seems like a smart idea.
    NO! I want to be able to smell the manual! Screw the planet, just give me that new game smell
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    Originally posted by bruce57:
    Screw the planet, just give me that new game smell
    Careful! Maybe you'll get a tiny glass bottle full of "paper manual smell" next to your copy of R.U.S.E. .
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